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Hillary was just proven to have violated campaign finance laws.
Project Veritas is funded by Donald Trump, and the creator is a serial liar who has been sued multiple times for fabricating videos. He's so bad, he's banned on Fox News.
That's not called proof.
We have evidence of Trump Super-PACs taking foreign donations. Is it ok when Trump does it?
The GOP HQ in NC? That was a firebombing, a Molotov Cocktail. It went through a window, burned through a fair amount of paper, smoke & fire damage, & burned out. FBI forensics are examining the evidence, but they may not have results until after the election.
& there's no point to firebombing opposition HQ in a district that is safe for the Democrats. Professionals on both sides know this. I would think drunken or otherwise impaired teenagers were to blame, but we'll see. Meantime, you're jumping to conclusions.
Exactly. Not to mention no one in the GOP hates Trump enough to firebomb a campaign office, right?
Project Veritas is funded by Donald Trump, and the creator is a serial liar who has been sued multiple times for fabricating videos. He's so bad, he's banned on Fox News.
That's not called proof.
We have evidence of Trump Super-PACs taking foreign donations. Is it ok when Trump does it?
Is it your position that the videos were fabricated? That somehow they got Foval and Creamer on video and edited their voices? Or, is it a simple deflection and "shoot the messenger" strategy.
These are not just any videos. These videos are from a source that has a proven track record of doctoring videos and knowingly portraying situations different from what they are in reality for political gain.
FWIW, I don't take Hillary's word that it was Russia that hacked the DNC. On the other had has anyone challenged the assertion that the intelligence community believes it was the Russians.
The same intelligence community who allowed Hillary to destroy emails while under subpoena?
I think of all of the many many many things that make her corrupt, this one is small potatoes. The biggest one is the Uranium deal with the Russians. People aren't voting for Trump because he says things that hurt their feelings. If that isn't the most asinine reason to vote for Boss Tweed in a pantsuit, I don't know what is.
Is it your position that the videos were fabricated? That somehow they got Foval and Creamer on video and edited their voices? Or, is it a simple deflection and "shoot the messenger" strategy.
Keep in mind both Creamer and Foval are history.
The problem is that the messenger, O'Keefe, has cried Wolf! time after time. TMK, he's never called it accurately - it's all wind & piffle, engineered to smear the target, whatever target this ideological mercenary has been paid to do. That's the issue, that's why the mainstream media - having finally learned the lesson after who-knows-how-many tries, have wised up sufficiently to avoid O'Keefe & the invented nastiness he invariably peddles.
In the issue @ hand, you don't need/want O'Keefe's footage - because he has too much baggage, all of it negative. He shows no regard for any kind of non-political truth nor accurate reporting. To pursue the allegations of illegal election behavior, you need an honest journalist reporting the facts of the story, preferably with footage to support the facts.
The problem is that the messenger, O'Keefe, has cried Wolf! time after time. TMK, he's never called it accurately - it's all wind & piffle, engineered to smear the target, whatever target this ideological mercenary has been paid to do. That's the issue, that's why the mainstream media - having finally learned the lesson after who-knows-how-many tries, have wised up sufficiently to avoid O'Keefe & the invented nastiness he invariably peddles.
In the issue @ hand, you don't need/want O'Keefe's footage - because he has too much baggage, all of it negative. He shows no regard for any kind of non-political truth nor accurate reporting. To pursue the allegations of illegal election behavior, you need an honest journalist reporting the facts of the story, preferably with footage to support the facts.
Your argument is invalid. You are using a poisoning the well fallacy and then promoting an appeal to authority fallacy in face of identifying and verifying a fact.
The persons' integrity is irrelevant to the facts as they are not required to evaluate the validity of the information. You claiming it is irrelevant is just a means to dismiss it as it severely damages your biased position.
The problem is that the messenger, O'Keefe, has cried Wolf! time after time. TMK, he's never called it accurately - it's all wind & piffle, engineered to smear the target, whatever target this ideological mercenary has been paid to do. That's the issue, that's why the mainstream media - having finally learned the lesson after who-knows-how-many tries, have wised up sufficiently to avoid O'Keefe & the invented nastiness he invariably peddles.
In the issue @ hand, you don't need/want O'Keefe's footage - because he has too much baggage, all of it negative. He shows no regard for any kind of non-political truth nor accurate reporting. To pursue the allegations of illegal election behavior, you need an honest journalist reporting the facts of the story, preferably with footage to support the facts.
Again, does your statement make what these videos show incorrect? Nope, it doesn't.
If we all went with your hypothesis then EVERYTHING Hillary and her campaign says should be considered a lie because she's been caught in so many herself, same with Obama.
Your argument is invalid. You are using a poisoning the well fallacy and then promoting an appeal to authority fallacy in face of identifying and verifying a fact.
The persons' integrity is irrelevant to the facts as they are not required to evaluate the validity of the information. You claiming it is irrelevant is just a means to dismiss it as it severely damages your biased position.
In short, we call that propaganda.
Is it a fallacy if the conclusion - that O'Keefe & all his minions & works & derivative works - are unreliable, especially as concerns the people/agencies/positions he is paid to target - is correct? If the conclusion is not correct, then: When has anyone been prosecuted to a guilty plea, been found guilty, paid a fine, paid restitution, apologized to the injured, served jail/prison time - as a result of O'Keefe's little immorality plays? Quite the opposite - O'Keefe & his crew have been tried & found guilty, paid fines & restitution, had to apologize, & barely avoided (plea bargaining deal) jail/prison time (O'Keefe himself, not his crew, TMK). O'Keefe is permanently barred from entering the Federal Building in LA, I believe, after he passed himself off as part of a telephone crew to fraudulently gain entry, allegedly to put in place wiretaps or 'phone taps (also crimes in & of themselves, absent permission, & in a Federal building, likely crimes even with permission - which he didn't have, of course) in the office of LA Sen. Landrieu.
In reporting, the reporter's integrity is everything. We have to rely or not on what we know or believe about the reporter's stake in the coverage. When the reporter is merely a mercenary, I have all the information I need.
O'Keefe is also doing a lot of damage to the profession of journalism in the US. It's popular to claim that all reporters are Liberal, & push their political agenda @ every opportunity. I don't think that's true - journalists tend to be literate, & pay attention to their subject, & likely type & use various ENG technology as a matter of course. Does that make them Liberal? Possibly, but the front-line reporters don't control the editorial boards - those tend to be safe corporates, although they may have served once as reporters themselves.
If every reporter simply bows to the checkbook, then we're all done. Might as well take out the Constitutional protections for the Press - since all we're going to get is more Kardashian & Jenner & whatever other player happens to be strutting on the stage du jour. That obfuscation of roles, by the way, is what CIS Pres. Putin, 16-year veteran & KGB Lt. Col., wants to instill in our national culture. That is what is so disheartening about Trump's claims that the system - voting, registration (even - perhaps especially - when half of the country's Governors & Secretaries of State are GOP), MSM, women, Liberals, literate people, Hispanics, Blacks, Jews, Asians, & on & on are all rigged against him. He is undermining the very foundations of the society & culture that made his rise possible.
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