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Is it a fallacy if the conclusion - that O'Keefe & all his minions & works & derivative works - are unreliable, especially as concerns the people/agencies/positions he is paid to target - is correct? If the conclusion is not correct, then: When has anyone been prosecuted to a guilty plea, been found guilty, paid a fine, paid restitution, apologized to the injured, served jail/prison time - as a result of O'Keefe's little immorality plays? Quite the opposite - O'Keefe & his crew have been tried & found guilty, paid fines & restitution, had to apologize, & barely avoided (plea bargaining deal) jail/prison time (O'Keefe himself, not his crew, TMK). O'Keefe is permanently barred from entering the Federal Building in LA, I believe, after he passed himself off as part of a telephone crew to fraudulently gain entry, allegedly to put in place wiretaps or 'phone taps (also crimes in & of themselves, absent permission, & in a Federal building, likely crimes even with permission - which he didn't have, of course) in the office of LA Sen. Landrieu.
In reporting, the reporter's integrity is everything. We have to rely or not on what we know or believe about the reporter's stake in the coverage. When the reporter is merely a mercenary, I have all the information I need.
O'Keefe is also doing a lot of damage to the profession of journalism in the US. It's popular to claim that all reporters are Liberal, & push their political agenda @ every opportunity. I don't think that's true - journalists tend to be literate, & pay attention to their subject, & likely type & use various ENG technology as a matter of course. Does that make them Liberal? Possibly, but the front-line reporters don't control the editorial boards - those tend to be safe corporates, although they may have served once as reporters themselves.
If every reporter simply bows to the checkbook, then we're all done. Might as well take out the Constitutional protections for the Press - since all we're going to get is more Kardashian & Jenner & whatever other player happens to be strutting on the stage du jour. That obfuscation of roles, by the way, is what CIS Pres. Putin, 16-year veteran & KGB Lt. Col., wants to instill in our national culture. That is what is so disheartening about Trump's claims that the system - voting, registration (even - perhaps especially - when half of the country's Governors & Secretaries of State are GOP), MSM, women, Liberals, literate people, Hispanics, Blacks, Jews, Asians, & on & on are all rigged against him. He is undermining the very foundations of the society & culture that made his rise possible.
Seriously, you can stand here with a straight face and defend modern journalists?
I am sick of the propaganda, off to ignore you go.
Why do people treat this source as if it is legit? It's the same idiot charlatan that doctored the ACORN tape and the Planned Parenthood tape. Jeez! When scammers tell you to jump...why do you respond with ..."how high?"
Why do people treat this source as if it is legit? It's the same idiot charlatan that doctored the ACORN tape and the Planned Parenthood tape. Jeez! When scammers tell you to jump...why do you respond with ..."how high?"
Why are people stepping down, getting fired and sending back checks?
If the Clinton Foundation paid someone to find dirt on Trump, how many Trump supporters would find it credible?
...The videos are, as is typical of O'Keefe's, work somewhat of a gish gallop, comprising a constellation of allegations and assertions that is virtually impossible to fact check without complete clips of the involved conversations. Nearly all the videos used stitched-together, out-of-context remarks with no indication of what occurred or what was discussed just before and after the included portions..."
Vera in 2009 also lost his job,even though he didn't anything wrong. O'Keefe in the end settled the lawsuit for 100k and his partner for 50k.
And if this was all creative editing (unfathomable considering the amount of material) than nothing would've happened. People would simple say it's fake. Much like the Russian angle, trying to discredit O'Keefe is just a way to avoid discussing such damning material. People will do all kinds of mental gymnastics to avoid confronting corruption.
And if this was all creative editing (unfathomable considering the amount of material) than nothing would've happened. People would simple say it's fake. Much like the Russian angle, trying to discredit O'Keefe is just a way to avoid discussing such damning material. People will do all kinds of mental gymnastics to avoid confronting corruption.
Nah, the point is, with a real journalist, we can discuss the merits of the case & the charges. When O'Keefe lurches onto the stage, he's immediately dead-catted & driven from the field. It's hopeless, there is no real news forum that is going to entertain either O'Keefe nor his little set pieces.
Now, the RT (originally Russian Today TV network) - that one would probably bite, as it accords well with their master's voice back in the Kremlin. But that's damning with faint praise, yes?
Get someone real, with a reputation for probity, & the charges & questions might gain some traction in the real World. Continue to trot out O'Keefe, & the whole story is relegated to the tinfoil hat nets. As it probably should be - there's a faint chance that there's something there worth investigating. But I think it's unlikely to be investigated, so long as O'Keefe is the front man for the band. & time is running out - a couple more weeks, & it'll mostly be academic. So it's time to either fish or cut bait.
Nah, the point is, with a real journalist, we can discuss the merits of the case & the charges. When O'Keefe lurches onto the stage, he's immediately dead-catted & driven from the field. It's hopeless, there is no real news forum that is going to entertain either O'Keefe nor his little set pieces.
Now, the RT (originally Russian Today TV network) - that one would probably bite, as it accords well with their master's voice back in the Kremlin. But that's damning with faint praise, yes?
Get someone real, with a reputation for probity, & the charges & questions might gain some traction in the real World. Continue to trot out O'Keefe, & the whole story is relegated to the tinfoil hat nets. As it probably should be - there's a faint chance that there's something there worth investigating. But I think it's unlikely to be investigated, so long as O'Keefe is the front man for the band. & time is running out - a couple more weeks, & it'll mostly be academic. So it's time to either fish or cut bait.
Yawn - more attack the messenger. How exactly does he trick people in to saying those things for what amounts to 45+ minutes of video? Hypnosis? I'd like to attempt wrapping my head around that.
Man up and take responsibility like those stepping down and getting fired. You sound like Donna Brazile right now.
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