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Old 11-08-2016, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Why? Read the OP and the thread title.

The FACT is that the U.S. did NOT invent slavery, did NOT invent chattel slavery, and was just a very small blip on the radar of African slavery, and that blip has been over for more than 150 years.

In fact, chattel slavery predates the U.S., and is still largely contained to Mauritania and the Sudan, in Africa. Africans still have not been able to abolish chattel slavery. The U.S. isn't the problem in the African slavery issue. Look to the origin and where it STILL continues to this day: Africa.
But it did develop its own variant. And that variant would be studied in a US History class. And, particularly considering its impact on later US history, that was very important to the US.

So the US student may well be more aware of the US version that the overall view of slavery in the world. Not particularly surprising.
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:01 AM
 
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I am not surprised, Most US citizens think that America = USA...
For an internal discussion in the USA the standard description of a citizen is "American". You are of course technically correct that there are a lot more "Americans" than the US citizens but that does not impact the local usage.
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:08 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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But it did develop its own variant.
Which is what, exactly? Chattel slavery? No, that already existed LONG before slaves were shipped to the U.S. and STILL exists to this day in Africa itself. So what is the supposed "own variant?"
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:30 AM
 
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slavery has been around for thousands of years, the largest percent of slaves went to the carribean and south america ,not america.
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:41 AM
 
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Small college? UW Oshkosh has an enrollment of over 13,000. Williams College (top ranked liberal arts college in the US), in comparison, has an enrollment of only 2,153. UW Oshkosh isn't small.
It's not large either though. Would be considered a medium size school.

College Size: Small, Medium or Large? - COLLEGEdata - College 411
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Which is what, exactly? Chattel slavery? No, that already existed LONG before slaves were shipped to the U.S. and STILL exists to this day in Africa itself. So what is the supposed "own variant?"
Here is a nice paper on the subject.

https://www.gilderlehrman.org/histor...ve-perspective
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Old 11-08-2016, 10:56 AM
 
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For an internal discussion in the USA the standard description of a citizen is "American". You are of course technically correct that there are a lot more "Americans" than the US citizens but that does not impact the local usage.

ok
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:03 AM
 
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Here is a nice paper on the subject.

https://www.gilderlehrman.org/histor...ve-perspective
OK, I read it. Conditions were much harsher for African slaves in Latin American and South American countries. So your point is that the U.S. had a kinder, gentler form of slavery, as well as a much lower volume of slaves transported from Africa.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:17 AM
 
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OK, I read it. Conditions were much harsher for African slaves in Latin American and South American countries. So your point is that the U.S. had a kinder, gentler form of slavery, as well as a much lower volume of slaves transported from Africa.
And propagated its slave population in a unique way creating the background that colors US society to this day.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:22 AM
 
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And propagated its slave population in a unique way creating the background that colors US society to this day.
Do you read why? Working and living conditions were MUCH harsher for Latin American and South American slaves so consequently their mortality rate was MUCH higher.

So, again, your point is that the U.S. had a kinder, gentler form of slavery, as well as a much lower volume of slaves transported from Africa.
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