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Not really. Slavery in the Caribbean varied depending on the island. Your statements regarding slaves not having children is false, as there were scores of people born into slavery in the region and even moved to different islands. This is why there was a distinction between the Creole slaves and the African (born) slaves on numerous islands.
For example, half of Trinidad's slaves came from other islands, particularly from the French Caribbean, while the rest came from Africa. This is due to late development of a slave society on the island. The Spanish, under the cedula de poblacion, allowed other Catholics to bring their slaves to Trinidad. The French came in numbers and these slaves were born in or had their next generations in the Caribbean. Thus, how French-Creole became the lingua franca in Trinidad and remained that way years after being handed to the British. Furthermore, Trinidad was only a plantation/slave-based society for around 50 years, from 1783 until 1834, when slavery was abolished.
Additionally, certain islands never became predominantly slave-based societies, such as the Cayman Islands and the Dominican Republic.
So to state that slavery in the Caribbean was worse than the U.S. is false. Again, it all depends on the island, and really, it makes little sense to compare. Slavery was horrible - period.
Agree here also. Although one might be left wondering which concept is more horrible to Dr. Pesto? Slavery, the idiotic notion of owning people as property? Or, that some of Dr. Pesto's students are not as familiar with World History as they are with the History of their own Country?
Personally, the idiotic notion of owning people as property is more horrible no matter whose mind contains the notion, especially when the notion spreads like a contagion to a whole group of people who then 'normalize' it.
As for students being more familiar with their own Country's History? I tend to think this is the case elsewhere in the World & not just in Dr. Pesto's classroom.
Again personally, the American version of Slavery practiced here is more horrible because it was premeditated. The United States of America was formed as a Constitutional Republic & Slavery, although an extremely contentious issue at the time of the Constitutional Convention, was, nevertheless, written into the document that formed the Nation. It's worse because it was calculated, intentional, deliberate, & planned in advance. & this is not to say that all people at the time approved, it was a compromise to some, some thought it would eventually be ended, others fully approved & advocated, & so on. In the end, no one knew for certain what impact the compromises made would have on the longevity of the Union of American States.
Slavery remained an extremely contentious issue all the way up to the American Civil War when, again, the Confederate States sought to form a Country in which a universal right to own people as property was one of the most entrenched laws of the land & then clarified the vague wordings of the US Constitution to identify slavery based on race.
Students in other Countries most likely are not as familiar with the American Civil War as students here in US. The former Confederate States sometimes teach a different version of American History than those States which did not seek secession or those not yet in existence. Because both the United States of America, & the failed Confederate States of America are & were Constitutional forms, it would make sense to teach the Constitutions of each to ascertain how the CSA intended to be different from the USA.
To discuss each Country in the Caribbean, involves, as you've detailed, researching the History of each individual Country. Personally, I cannot claim to be proficient in any of the Histories, but have read the most about Haiti. Living in NY, I know & am friendly with folks from all over, including the Caribbean Countries. It would be beneficial for American students to learn much more about the History of other Countries although it would also be a very challenging task, especially in the younger grades. Suffice to say, there were reasons (back pre American Civil War) to suppress the successful Slave Rebellions & Revolutions in other Countries.
Agree here also. Although one might be left wondering which concept is more horrible to Dr. Pesto? Slavery, the idiotic notion of owning people as property? Or, that some of Dr. Pesto's students are not as familiar with World History as they are with the History of their own Country?
Personally, the idiotic notion of owning people as property is more horrible no matter whose mind contains the notion, especially when the notion spreads like a contagion to a whole group of people who then 'normalize' it.
As for students being more familiar with their own Country's History? I tend to think this is the case elsewhere in the World & not just in Dr. Pesto's classroom.
Again personally, the American version of Slavery practiced here is more horrible because it was premeditated. The United States of America was formed as a Constitutional Republic & Slavery, although an extremely contentious issue at the time of the Constitutional Convention, was, nevertheless, written into the document that formed the Nation. It's worse because it was calculated, intentional, deliberate, & planned in advance. & this is not to say that all people at the time approved, it was a compromise to some, some thought it would eventually be ended, others fully approved & advocated, & so on. In the end, no one knew for certain what impact the compromises made would have on the longevity of the Union of American States.
Slavery remained an extremely contentious issue all the way up to the American Civil War when, again, the Confederate States sought to form a Country in which a universal right to own people as property was one of the most entrenched laws of the land & then clarified the vague wordings of the US Constitution to identify slavery based on race.
Students in other Countries most likely are not as familiar with the American Civil War as students here in US. The former Confederate States sometimes teach a different version of American History than those States which did not seek secession or those not yet in existence. Because both the United States of America, & the failed Confederate States of America are & were Constitutional forms, it would make sense to teach the Constitutions of each to ascertain how the CSA intended to be different from the USA.
To discuss each Country in the Caribbean, involves, as you've detailed, researching the History of each individual Country. Personally, I cannot claim to be proficient in any of the Histories, but have read the most about Haiti. Living in NY, I know & am friendly with folks from all over, including the Caribbean Countries. It would be beneficial for American students to learn much more about the History of other Countries although it would also be a very challenging task, especially in the younger grades. Suffice to say, there were reasons (back pre American Civil War) to suppress the successful Slave Rebellions & Revolutions in other Countries.
So you and the poster you quoted both decry classifying which slavery was worse then you both do the exact thing you condemn by classifying it?
So you and the poster you quoted both decry classifying which slavery was worse then you both do the exact thing you condemn by classifying it?
How wonderful.
Ah, I see what you're saying.
USA USA USA we are #1 in EVERYTHING except enslavement!
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Coby Burren was reading his textbook, sitting in geography class at Pearland High School near Houston, when he noticed a troubling caption. The 15-year-old quickly took a picture with his phone and sent it to his mother.
Next to a map of the United States describing "patterns of immigration," it read that the Atlantic slave trade brought "millions of workers from Africa to the southern United States to work on agricultural plantations." ...
In the past year, Texas textbooks have been criticized for listing Moses as a Founding Father and for downplaying slavery as a cause of the Civil War. Those issues stemmed from the learning standards that the Texas State Board of Education sets to guide publishers.
...Texas textbooks — and how they address aspects of history, science, politics and other subjects — have been a source of controversy for years in part because the state is one of the largest buyers of textbooks. In 2010, the Texas Board of Education approved a social-studies curriculum that put a conservative stamp on history and economics textbooks, including emphasizing Republican political achievements and movements. State-sanctioned textbooks have been criticized for passages suggesting Moses influenced the writing of the Constitution and dismissing the history of the separation of church and state.
“It’s no accident that this happened in Texas,” said Kathy Miller, president of the Texas Freedom Network, a group that has criticized the content of state-approved textbooks. “We have a textbook adoption process that’s so politicized and so flawed that it’s become almost a punch line for comedians.” ...
This goes to show how poorly educated our children are. They aren't being taught, but they are being indoctrinated.
Slavery still exists in the world today, and at the time of the founding of the United States, the slave trade was being run by Muslims (as it is today).
Good for her! Another big error in textbooks is the SJW PC 'blame the U.S.' game for African slavery, when the vast majority of the African slaves in the Atlantic slave trade went to Latin American and South American countries:
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
Here's what we know for a FACT...
Sources: Emory University and the National Endowment for the Humanities
This goes to show how poorly educated our children are. They aren't being taught, but they are being indoctrinated.
Slavery still exists in the world today, and at the time of the founding of the United States, the slave trade was being run by Muslims (as it is today).
Exactly. The Atlantic slave trade was actually begun by the Portuguese.
But Muslims weren't the only major participants. The major Atlantic slave trading nations in order of trade volume, were: the Portuguese, the British, the French, the Spanish, and the Dutch Empire. Anyone notice the U.S. isn't even in the top 5?
(THE COLLEGE FIX) — For 11 years, Professor Duke Pesta gave quizzes to his students at the beginning of the school year to test their knowledge on basic facts about American history and Western culture.
The most surprising result from his 11-year experiment? Students’ overwhelming belief that slavery began in the United States and was almost exclusively an American phenomenon, he said.
“Most of my students could not tell me anything meaningful about slavery outside of America,” Pesta told The College Fix. “They are convinced that slavery was an American problem that more or less ended with the Civil War, and they are very fuzzy about the history of slavery prior to the Colonial era. Their entire education about slavery was confined to America.”
There is only so much you can teach in a day. History is only one subject. Each subject is what, maybe an hour maybe 45 minutes. The entire history of the world just isn't possible to teach. But my son majored in history so he knows things I was never taught.
"There is only so much you can teach in a day."
Right, they only teach history 1 day out of the 182 (it varies state to state) that kids go to school in a year.
"The entire history of the world just isn't possible to teach"
Which is why you get world history one year and U.S. history ANOTHER year.
If schools are going to teach a subject, there is NO reason why they can't be accurate.
Agree here also. Although one might be left wondering which concept is more horrible to Dr. Pesto? Slavery, the idiotic notion of owning people as property? Or, that some of Dr. Pesto's students are not as familiar with World History as they are with the History of their own Country?
One might, if one were a moron. More likely one might be left wondering how to get a some kind of shot in at Dr. Pesto for being a traitor to the academic left and, lacking anything of substance, insinuate that he is pro-slavery.
Has it really gotten to the point that Jefferson is known more as a slave owner than as a president and founding father?
"Has it really gotten to the point that Jefferson is known more as a slave owner than as a president and founding father?"
YES!
Most of today's high school teachers and administers are liberal and want to emphasize the only those things that strengthen their liberal agendas.
I recall the big hoopla a few years back about the "new" history books liberals wanted to use in high school.
Our Founding Father's were barely mentioned.
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