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Old 11-13-2016, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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So, out of 232 Million possible voters you think a 2 million lead is some kind of mandate?
Seriously?
Her popular vote lead means she gets to pull the horn on the train leaving DC

 
Old 11-13-2016, 01:22 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Sorry but it's just a teeny bit disingenuous to include people who didn't vote, dontcha think? And yes I think the popular vote matters and you would do if the tables were turned, you just don't want to admit that.
Actually no, because Hillary didn't excite those who didn't vote enough to actually turn off the tv/video games and fill in the little box for her. They're still eligible voters who didn't vote for her for whatever reason.
Just because they didn't vote you cannot discount that fact.
 
Old 11-13-2016, 04:42 PM
 
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Actually no, because Hillary didn't excite those who didn't vote enough to actually turn off the tv/video games and fill in the little box for her. They're still eligible voters who didn't vote for her for whatever reason.
Just because they didn't vote you cannot discount that fact.
I bet you sell used cars!
 
Old 11-13-2016, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Actually no, because Hillary didn't excite those who didn't vote enough to actually turn off the tv/video games and fill in the little box for her. They're still eligible voters who didn't vote for her for whatever reason. Just because they didn't vote you cannot discount that fact.
oh but here's there's a little complication to that theory, you see they didn't vote for Trump either
 
Old 11-13-2016, 06:45 PM
 
Location: U.S.
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Her popular vote lead means she gets to pull the horn on the train leaving DC
In order for Hillary to pull the rope, she'll need a step stool since she's so short. Being only 5'3 or 5'4, she is shorter than most train operators.
 
Old 11-14-2016, 04:34 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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oh but here's there's a little complication to that theory, you see they didn't vote for Trump either
Exactly, nobody can say who those people supported. That's why saying the majority of the U.S. supported Hillary is completely false as there are many who DIDN'T SAY. You could say "of those that wanted or were willing to vote she got XX more votes".
 
Old 11-14-2016, 04:46 AM
bUU
 
Location: Florida
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Sorry but it's just a teeny bit disingenuous to include people who didn't vote, dontcha think? And yes I think the popular vote matters and you would do if the tables were turned, you just don't want to admit that.
The popular vote and the electoral vote both are suitable contexts for claiming a mandate. The fact that Trump lost the popular vote and didn't receive more than 300 EVs indicates no mandate. Therefore, any brinkmanship used to bring about his policy perspectives, rather than engaging in true compromise with the opposition, is unjust abuse of power.

Remember all the right-wing whining about ACA? President Obama entered the White House after having won the popular vote and having earned 365 EVs. He had a mandate. Trump has earned the power but not the moral right to impose changes of that order, given how much less significant his victory was.
 
Old 11-14-2016, 04:50 AM
 
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Sorry but it's just a teeny bit disingenuous to include people who didn't vote, dontcha think? And yes I think the popular vote matters and you would do if the tables were turned, you just don't want to admit that.

We Vite by State, not by person.
That is the only popular vote that matters.
 
Old 11-14-2016, 05:18 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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The popular vote and the electoral vote both are suitable contexts for claiming a mandate. The fact that Trump lost the popular vote and didn't receive more than 300 EVs indicates no mandate. Therefore, any brinkmanship used to bring about his policy perspectives, rather than engaging in true compromise with the opposition, is unjust abuse of power.

Remember all the right-wing whining about ACA? President Obama entered the White House after having won the popular vote and having earned 365 EVs. He had a mandate. Trump has earned the power but not the moral right to impose changes of that order, given how much less significant his victory was.
Actually given that he WON in our current electoral system he has both the legal and MORAL right to impose any changes his office and the people's representatives allow.

What you are complaining about is that his morals may not match yours. So what? That doesn't make you right and him any less the President Elect.
BTW, Obama, even having a so called "mandate" still managed to turn that "mandate" into non action.
 
Old 11-14-2016, 05:20 AM
 
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The FBI is capable of making a sound determination. Stop blaming Obama because you are so hateful toward him and Clinton.
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