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Old 11-30-2016, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Look pretty good? This is what I see:

Some of these women look pretty okay with that thing.
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:03 AM
 
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Anyone else get the feeling that the Hijab is being fetishized in the West?

Absolutely, 100%. In a way we would NEVER fetishize or celebrate "Christian" conservative dress.


No swooning articles about the trendy fashion of these ladies, eh? I wonder why not?:

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Old 11-30-2016, 08:04 AM
 
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Some of these women look pretty okay with that thing.

If you're into the beekeeper (niqab) or babushka (hijab) look. Tres tres chic.
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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If you're into the beekeeper (niqab) or babushka (hijab) look. Tres tres chic.
Oh lord.

Never mind.
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Look pretty good? This is what I see:
That's a babushka - nothing to do with Muslims.
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:28 AM
 
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That's a babushka - nothing to do with Muslims.
I know. I'm saying I don't find them fashionable or chic. In my grandparent's village in Portugal the old ladies who were in mourning would cover their heads and wear modest all-black clothing. But they were very old women. And literally nobody commanded they do this.

But you know, you're right. Babushkas don't carry the added baggage of being misogynist symbols of oppression for tens and tens of millions of women in the world who have no choice in whether they get to wear hijab or not.


While the west glorifies this piece of ugly cloth countless others in the Ummah suffer.


Western feminists are useless.
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I know. I'm saying I don't find them fashionable or chic. In my grandparent's village in Portugal the old ladies who were in mourning would cover their heads and wear modest all-black clothing. But they were very old women. And literally nobody commanded they do this.

But you know, you're right. Babushkas don't carry the added baggage of being misogynist symbols of oppression for tens and tens of millions of women in the world who have no choice in whether they get to wear hijab or not.


While the west glorifies this piece of ugly cloth countless others in the Ummah suffer.


Western feminists are useless.
I don't find it fashionable or chic either. However, I think if they choose to wear that head scarf, it is their choice.

I am a conservative and I know a lot of conservative women feel the same way I do. We just don't care.

The burka is the most concealing of all Islamic veils, burka does look creepy to me though.
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:40 AM
 
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I don't find it fashionable or chic either. However, I think if they choose to wear that head scarf, it is their choice.


That's the great debate though, isn't it?

The conservative religious Muslim women who claim they wear it out of choice vs. the liberal Muslims, ex-Muslims and those with no voice claiming they don't have any choice in the matter.

I always go back to this photo:




Iranian women, post-Revolution, protesting against mandatory head coverings.


And btw, THIS woman is brave:



The news reporter and "rebel" hijabis in Playboy and beauty pageants in the west? They are NOT. They are often attention seekers expressing their identity in a defiant and purposely non-conformist manner.
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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That's the great debate though, isn't it?

The conservative religious Muslim women who claim they wear it out of choice vs. the liberal Muslims, ex-Muslims and those with no voice claiming they don't have any choice in the matter.

I always go back to this photo:




Iranian women, post-Revolution, protesting against mandatory head coverings.
I don't think they should be forced to wear head covering. But some Muslim women seem to choose to wear that head scarf.

Here in California, I see a lot of such women. lol

They don't bother me, I don't bother them. If they talk to me, I'll talk to them.

I asked a Muslim woman once if they are forced to wear head scarf, she said, nope.

As long as I don't have to wear that scarf, I don't really care.

Men, however, need to go shirtless.

Like this

//www.city-data.com/forum/membe...boys-xoxo.html
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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The news reporter and "rebel" hijabis in Playboy and beauty pageants in the west? They are NOT. They are often attention seekers expressing their identity in a defiant and purposely non-conformist manner.
The news reporter is not brave.

But the muslim female porn star, she is pretty brave because she can be killed by religious nutjob.
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