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View Poll Results: Would you accept your child if they came out as LGBT?
Yes, I would accept them 213 72.70%
I might have difficulty accepting them, but I will try 24 8.19%
I would accept it if they were gay or bisexual, but not if they were trans* 11 3.75%
I could not accept it 45 15.36%
Voters: 293. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-24-2016, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Should be legal to cull them just like a farmer would cull such a defective animal from his herd .
Interesting. I am in favor of Eugenics. Can solve a LOT of our mental health issues.
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Old 12-24-2016, 04:24 PM
 
Location: California
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Default Would you be okay if your child came out as LGBT?

Never had a thought about it, my son was raised in a mentally healthy environment there was no way he would have a mental disorder like that.

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Old 12-24-2016, 04:45 PM
 
Location: London
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Should be legal to cull them just like a farmer would cull such a defective animal from his herd .
How would you do it? By throwing them off of rooftops, perchance?

Merry Christmas Eve.
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Old 12-24-2016, 07:01 PM
 
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How would you do it? By throwing them off of rooftops, perchance?

Merry Christmas Eve.
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Old 12-24-2016, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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I'd be somewhat disappointed, but I recognize that humans do not choose what sex they are attracted to. It is what it is. Anyone who thinks differently does not get it.

The act is a choice, the attraction is not. We are only human.

I would support my child regardless.
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Never had a thought about it, my son was raised in a mentally healthy environment there was no way he would have a mental disorder like that.
This is an instance where a moderate conservative like myself, and a hard right conservative may differ in opinion.

There was a time when I believed homosexual attraction was a mental disorder. Over the years, I came to the realization that homosexual tendencies were part of God's larger plan to assist with population control. Humans are hardwired at birth. It is what it is.

Roaddog, if your child was schizophrenic (a true mental disorder), no amount of a healthy upbringing would have cured his ills. His tendencies would have still surfaced, controlled by medication, of course. If your child was born gay, they would still be gay now. They may play the part they want you to believe in front of you, but it would not change who they really are attracted to.
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Old 12-24-2016, 07:27 PM
 
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After seeing this thread fly by several times, I've come up with an answer. You may not like it, but here it is.

When my daughter has done something I don't like, I always give her the benefit of the doubt. I look her right in the eye and say "Ok, tell me the story."

More often than not she turns out to be innocent. I don't fly off the handle with my kids. I interrogate until I have the whole truth.

That being said, most gay people are born that way. Most. Then there are those that go that way due to early childhood molestation, and then there are those that just "experiment". Experimentation is becoming ridiculously popular with kids these days, mostly due to all the mind-bending media coverage of the issue.

So I'd have to know the story. I'd look her right in the eye and say "Ok, tell me the story." I would get at the truth. If I can determine she was born that way, of course I would accept her as she is, she's my child.

If I determine molestation was involved? I've got some hunting to do.

If it's experimentation, then on with the show. Much like some parents have done to kids they've caught smoking, where they make them chain smoke a whole pack right in front of them, I would ensure she moves out of that phase as quickly as she went into it. How? Overt acceptance and encouragement to the point where it becomes discouraging.

There's your answer. Sorry, it doesn't fit the poll.
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Old 12-24-2016, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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I am the oldest of 19 children of 4 sisters. In fact at this point I am within one of the sisters of being the tribe elder.

Of the 19 three are gay. And a couple of others may have strayed back and forth across the line. All are well accepted members of the clan. In fact the spouse of one is one of the leading cheerleaders of the clan.

Of the next generation there appear to be again around the same percentage gay. There is some indication that God has a sense of humor. The most conservative of us all, the evangelical Catholic of mystic belief has two children both of whom are gay. He fought it a long time but appears to have made peace with it...probably helped by a serious life threatening ailment.

I think the tribe as a whole loves our gay members. They as a group add spice. And spouses of the gays have also been welcomed.

At this point it has become matter of fact. And nobody seems to have a problem.
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Old 12-24-2016, 10:05 PM
 
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Are there any studies that determine whether children raised by a gay couple are more likely to be gay than children raised by a straight couple ?
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Old 12-24-2016, 10:35 PM
 
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A lot (if not most) parents are at least somewhat unsupportive, and while I understand that it takes time to adjust expectations, it's sad when relationships become strained due to a child coming out. Although some people may feel that sticking to their principles is more important, and if they love their child, maybe they feel that helping them leave the LGBT lifestyle is best.

What does everyone think here?
I think for a thesis "LGBT" in the context of your question is too broad and needs to be narrowed down. Also, I notice you left the "Q" off of the end. The LGBTQ.

If the L, G, and B are the same as the H (heterosexual) then why is not cognizantky expressed as the "LGBH" and the "TQ" making a separate acronym?

In Western Christianity, particularly Catholicism, sin is viewed in a very legalistic manner. Indeed, Catholicism is very legalistic in its outlook overall.

So, sin is viewed as something that can be made a non-sin or even a virtue if put through the adversarial process, or democratic process or some top down legislative process in which for example, a husband punching no more than 3 teeth of out his wife's mouth is now today (hypothetically) a non-sin, even a virtue, because enough Catholics argued over it and decided to raise it from a sin to a virtue. Either that or by the major stroke of the Pope's wand it is made a virtue today from what was once deemed a sin.

But sin in Eastern Christianity is viewed quite differently, it is viewed as an illness. A spiritual illness in which a person becomes somehow or by some means too attached to a thing regarded as a sin. Eastern Christianity does rank sins as mortal vs venial either. There is an equality there, the people that are part of the LGBTQ lifestyle are no greater de facto than a heroin addict like the late actor Philip Seymour Hoffman. Actually, the equality makes members of the LGBTQ lifestyle equal to all other humans that sin repeatedly on earth, and never "turn away from" (convert) their sin they are inordinately attached to.






My own personal feeling is this. I would rather my child be one of the letters in the acronym LGBTQ than be a drug addict. If a drug addict I would hope they smoke (not inject) crack cocaine rather than become addicted to opiate pills or become an IV drug user (which opiate pill popping often leads to).

Because I think drug addiction is more destructive to the person and it also weakness one to increasingly over time developing worse and worse character defects. The health is often compromised.

Male-on-male sex, especially repeatedly over months, years, or decades, compromises the health of the male anatomy as well. For ethnic Black-American males that compromise even statistically extends physiologically (not just anatomically = anus) with black-on-black males having an HIV rate that far exceeds black IV drug users. Black crack cocaine addicts have an HIV rate roughly the equivalent of American male heterosexuals.

Almost all American transsexuals that were born male will eventually acquire HIV (as most prostitute themselves for money) in their life. Their HIV rate is even astronomically higher than the HIV rate for black-on-black males. Yet, going down that road of transsexualism is regard as "healthy" whereas going to the road of crack cocaine addiction is universally regard as "unhealthy." But the objective math, statistical mathematic, should indicate that asymmetrical conception is politically and socially derived per "bias" as to "healthy" vs "unhealthy."
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Old 12-24-2016, 10:46 PM
 
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Are there any studies that determine whether children raised by a gay couple are more likely to be gay than children raised by a straight couple ?
Are there any studies that determine whether societies that promote homosexuality eventually promote non-binary and qqueer lifestyle (qqueer as in the Q in LGBTQ), and have a rise in its young people raised in such a culture, who say they are neither heterosexual or homosexual?

I ask because within a certain age range of the British youth, per some published study done I believe, the majority (over 50%) of them in that age range stated they neither regard themselves as heterosexual or homosexual.

But in terms of your question the children of ancient Sparta, raised by men in women that engaged in same sex sexual relations, all took same sex sexual partners.





My own view has come to be that the term "heterosexual" and "homosexual" were created to shift perceptions the way the newer term "cis women" does--shifts perception. I don't think anyone is innately heterosexual or homosexual. That is not to say I deny most people develop a prevailing or exclusive heterosexual oriented attraction, and smaller percent one towards the homosexual oriented attraction.
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