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Healthcare is a necessary public service not for the health of individuals, but for the health of our greater society. The mandate that people have health insurance, receive fairly regular check ups, and have infections and diseases addressed in a somewhat timely manor is a benefit to every single person in this country, regardless of socioeconomic status, postal code, or political leaning.
This. To bad too many don't see that the economic well being of a society is enhanced when it is healthy.
So, making people healthier in general is considered enslaving, but as a taxpayer, paying for a ridiculous amount of military to shove an aircraft carrier up in every continents arse instead of worrying about only about ourselves isn't enslaving me to support this effort?
Listen, Obamacare is a nightmare. To really sound credible you'd have to remove the profit from healthcare and allow government to collect and disperse. America is very leery of this idea and it would be almost impossible to pull off. This is why, with a for profit healthcare system, we would benefit more from competition.
As nice as it sounds to change to a social non profit healthcare system it would be a miracle to pull off in America. Easier to move to England.
Listen, Obamacare is a nightmare. To really sound credible you'd have to remove the profit from healthcare and allow government to collect and disperse. America is very leery of this idea and it would be almost impossible to pull off. This is why, with a for profit healthcare system, we would benefit more from competition.
As nice as it sounds to change to a social non profit healthcare system it would be a miracle to pull off in America. Easier to move to England.
Well, idealistically I'd be with you on that and remove the profit motive all together however, changes like this takes decades to do. Focusing on small incremental changes is more realistic and will come with debates and fixes to the current system.
So, making people healthier in general is considered enslaving, but as a taxpayer, paying for a ridiculous amount of military to shove an aircraft carrier up in every continents arse instead of worrying about only about ourselves isn't enslaving me to support this effort?
We pay for that aircraft carrier and park it offshore of our enemies so that we never have to use it.
We pay for that aircraft carrier and park it offshore of our enemies so that we never have to use it.
Our jurisdiction is only the USA and our territories. No continent belongs to the USA. Park it state side, but don't build 20 other aircraft carriers that costs billions upon billions but call it slavery if we propose spending 1 billion on healthcare subsidies or whatever else.
Edit: We demand and respect our own liberties amongst ourselves, but we can't respect the liberties and sovereignty of other countries. Seems like a fallacy.
Well, idealistically I'd be with you on that and remove the profit motive all together however, changes like this takes decades to do. Focusing on small incremental changes is more realistic and will come with debates and fixes to the current system.
The problem is you'll be sacrificing peoples health in the meantime. That's really not a good way to fix it. It just trades one part of the population for another which will just divide the country further as we've seen.
There are other ways. We will see how the businessman handles it, hopefully it will be better but if not then we will be forced to go back to the drawing board.
Trump actually might do better because our government leans in his direction. If he can use the free market in our favor we might get more people actual coverage and not just insurance.
If there were enough who wanted what you do Bernie Sanders would have won. We just aren't there yet. Maybe as these kids become adults. Time will tell.
Listen, Obamacare is a nightmare. To really sound credible you'd have to remove the profit from healthcare and allow government to collect and disperse. America is very leery of this idea and it would be almost impossible to pull off. This is why, with a for profit healthcare system, we would benefit more from competition.
As nice as it sounds to change to a social non profit healthcare system it would be a miracle to pull off in America. Easier to move to England.
America is not leery of Medicare at all, which is a government single payer system. America loves it. GOP hates it, but that shouldnt prevent us from expanding it into a Medicare-for-all system.
The problem is you'll be sacrificing peoples health in the meantime. That's really not a good way to fix it. It just trades one part of the population for another which will just divide the country further as we've seen.
There are other ways. We will see how the businessman handles it, hopefully it will be better but if not then we will be forced to go back to the drawing board.
Trump actually might do better because our government leans in his direction. If he can use the free market in our favor we might get more people actual coverage and not just insurance.
If there were enough who wanted what you do Bernie Sanders would have won. We just aren't there yet. Maybe as these kids become adults. Time will tell.
That plus in general the population is pretty poorly educated and doesn't have the basic critical skills necessary to see why this is the way to go amongst other issues. They vote for principle rather than policy. We're a society of blaming others for our problems but never taking the blame ourselves.
America is not leery of Medicare at all, which is a government single payer system. America loves it. GOP hates it, but that shouldnt prevent us from expanding it into a Medicare-for-all system.
America is not leery of Medicare at all, which is a government single payer system. America loves it. GOP hates it, but that shouldnt prevent us from expanding it into a Medicare-for-all system.
If America loved the idea of single payer non profit then we'd already have it. What prevents us from expanding medicare for all is that people don't vote in government bodies who are for it, or we'd have it. It's pretty simple. What we have now is a divide, some do, some don't. That isn't the same.
Who ran on this premise? Bernie Sanders, and he didn't even make it out of the gate. When we elect a president and a congress/senate who all agree with this then we have a chance. So far we are too divided to get that together.
Meanwhile, most all Americans would love to have affordable healthcare regardless of which system they think will provide it. It's not because some people are mean and others are nice.
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