Should we really allow anyone who says they are transgender to be so just because? (money, state government)

[DuckOfMs]

Originally Posted by T-310

Simple, if they have a dangler the men's room, camel toe, women's room.

So, you'd suggest that someone who was castrated, no "dangler", should use the women's room?

[Floorist]

I believe I am a cat, so all restrooms need a big litter box.

[usayit]

Originally Posted by jjrose

And please wash your hands after you finish up.

That bothers me more than some person next to me taking a **** that may (or may not) find me sexually arousing... lol. yuk.

Oh and the guys that can't aim... ugh.

[jacqueg]

Originally Posted by RP2C

Judith:[on Stan's desire to be a mother] Here! I've got an idea: Suppose you agree that he can't actually have babies, not having a womb - which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans' - but that he can have the "right" to have babies.
Francis: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother... sister, sorry.
Reg: What's the point?
Francis: What?
Reg: What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when he can't have babies?
Francis: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
Reg: It's symbolic of his struggle against reality. - exchange from "Life of Brian"

But men have always had babies. Those men are called 'fathers'. If you mean, can a man carry a baby inside his body, no, not yet he can't. (I'm sure it's being worked on though, somewhere in the world.) But there are women who can't carry babies in their bodies either, and yet it's now common for them to become biological mothers.

In the mean time, you can ponder this - https://www.newscientist.com/article...ent-technique/

[T-310]

Originally Posted by DuckOfMs

So, you'd suggest that someone who was castrated, no "dangler", should use the women's room?

Don't be obtuse. Born a man use the appropriate facility.

[DuckOfMs]

Originally Posted by T-310

Don't be obtuse.

Reading your literal words and not trying to guess your meaning is being obtuse? ok.

Born a man use the appropriate facility.

So, you also believe that a person, born a man, who has had complete gender reassignment surgery (no dangler) should also use the men's room?

How about people born with ambiguous genitalia?

[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by bastion79

However, try as you might to move the goalposts, genetic mutations are not what we're discussing here, is it?

Probably we are.

BBC NEWS | Health | Transsexual gene link identified

Is gender identity biologically hard-wired? | PBS NewsHour

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/840538_3

Originally Posted by bastion79

That's a pretty broad and ambiguous statement with no mention of AIS. That's why I responded the way I did.

It's not ambiguous at all and was in direct response to the broad statement that all XX are female and all XY are male.

[Loveshiscountry]

When it's ladies night and they get a deal on admission and booze how can I transgender myself?

[Workin_Hard]

Originally Posted by DuckOfMs

So, you also believe that a person, born a man, who has had complete gender reassignment surgery (no dangler) should also use the men's room?

No, even a mutilated man should not be using the women's rest room.

Originally Posted by DuckOfMs

How about people born with ambiguous genitalia?

The same rule as when we used to go on long car rides as children - go before leaving the house 'cause there might not be a good place to stop.

[Loveshiscountry]

Originally Posted by DuckOfMs

Reading your literal words and not trying to guess your meaning is being obtuse? ok.


So, you also believe that a person, born a man, who has had complete gender reassignment surgery (no dangler) should also use the men's room?

Nope he's cut off from the mens room. It's called MR Happy for a reason.

Originally Posted by DuckOfMs

How about people born with ambiguous genitalia?

Ambiguous genitalia. What does that mean?