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That doesn't make it valid to permit anatomical males into girls' open multiple occupancy school gym locker/shower rooms and vice versa.
Exactly. No problem in the classroom. But it IS a problem in open multiple occupancy school gym locker/shower rooms in which MINOR students are in various stages of undress including complete nudity.
77% of those age 30+ (not coincidentally, those old enough to have school-age kids) agree. It should not be allowed.
I misspoke, I meant in the locker room, not the classroom.
See the link in my previous post. I suspect the number of high school students, male or female, who get completely nude in front of their peers is very small.
I misspoke, I meant in the locker room, not the classroom.
See the link in my previous post. I suspect the number of high school students, male or female, who get completely nude in front of their peers is very small.
You may suspect many people have poor hygiene habits. I don't. I was a high school athlete, as were my kids, as are my nieces and nephews. We all shower/showered in the open multiple occupancy school gym locker/shower room. This is especially true after mandatory swim class to wash the chlorine off of skin and hair.
Look, LGBT SJWs are pushing this way too far, and it's creating a backlash that they might not particularly welcome. Those who used to be sympathetic to the cause don't like having this forced on their minor children, grandchildren, nieces/nephews, etc., in school.
The LGBT SJWs have the choice of backing off on this, or losing support. Simple as that.
Those who change into/out of swimsuits for mandatory swim class, and those who shower.
If anyone does not want to be seen, change in the toilet cubicle. Few actually shower at school any more, even those on sports teams.
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This isn't about attraction. It's about actual physical anatomy. The same as has always been true in facilities that distinguish by gender.
You said, "Are they all straight? Or are some of them attracted to the gender with which they wish to mingle in the open multiple occupancy locker/changing/shower rooms?"
Should lesbian girls be barred from the girls locker room? they are attracted to the gender with which they mingle, are they not?
You just cannot accept that a transgender girl thinks like a girl, not a boy. Sexual orientation is different.
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Just because SOME people have poor hygiene habits doesn't mean that all do.
Not showering at school appears to be the norm these days.
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Says who? What's the legal requirement for establishing one's gender status "of choice?" Go on... cite the actual legal requirement.
Being transgender is not a choice. It has a biologic foundation. Because you choose not to believe that does not make it untrue. Can you find a case of a student pretending to be transgender in order to gain access to a girls locker room? Can you imagine the ragging he would get for trying? He might not like the response of the school authorities, either.
And how should we exactly stop people from saying what they want?
Hmmm...
I "say" I'm poor. Can I stop paying taxes now and instead get thousands of dollars from the government in refundable tax credits, Medicaid, welfare, food stamps, a housing subsidy, etc., etc., etc.?
Who are you or anyone else to contradict how I "choose" to identify myself?
If anyone does not want to be seen, change in the toilet cubicle.
Won't work. Large schools don't have hundreds of toilet cubicles in the gym locker/shower room. They don't have private showers, either. You simply cannot provide for hundreds of students at a time without having open multiple occupancy facilities.
The LGBT SJWs can either back off on this, or lose much of the public support they've gained over the years. Their choice.
My question is why does anyone care that much to post something like this? Does this harm your or your family? Don't have enough to worry about or have no life at all?
It doesn't harm me at all, I think it is all funny because everybody should know if you have a penis you are male , if you have a vagina you are female, anything else is in your head, a mental confusion. people care because it does affect them, children sharing locker rooms and restrooms with perverts concerns people, women going to the gym having to share the locker room with men who claim they are women well yeah that should be a concern. The government changing laws to allow people with apparent mental health to become the norm and endangering the public.
You may suspect many people have poor hygiene habits. I don't. I was a high school athlete, as were my kids, as are my nieces and nephews. We all shower/showered in the open multiple occupancy school gym locker/shower room. This is especially true after mandatory swim class to wash the chlorine off of skin and hair.
Look, LGBT SJWs are pushing this way too far, and it's creating a backlash that they might not particularly welcome. Those who used to be sympathetic to the cause don't like having this forced on their minor children, grandchildren, nieces/nephews, etc., in school.
The LGBT SJWs have the choice of backing off on this, or losing support. Simple as that.
You might want to read the link I posted.
High school boys (not transgender) mostly do not want to be nude in front of their peers. They do not want to use gang showers.
High school girls (not transgender) mostly do not want to be nude in front of their peers. They do not want to use gang showers.
The norm these days is to not shower at school.
The number of transgender high school students is small. Trans girls just want to be treated like girls. Their brains are of the female gender. They are not going to be exposing their genitalia, and they are not going to be seeing more of the skin of their classmates than they would at the beach.
Why? We ALL know students change and/or shower in open multiple occupancy school gym locker/shower rooms.
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The number of transgender high school students is small.
Why impose on everyone else to humor theunsubstantiated self-proclaimed "identity" of such a very small minority?
And that brings me to the prior point I made... You never did answer the question... What's the legal requirement for establishing one's gender status "of choice?" Go on... cite the actual legal requirement.
If I "identify" as Queen Elizabeth, does that actually make me so?
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Should we really allow anyone who says they are transgender to be so just because?
