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Old 01-15-2017, 08:01 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Overall, only about half of Americans receive employer-sponsored health insurance. The rest are covered through Medicaid, Medicare, self-paid plans, or uninsured.

Middle and low-income workers are less likely to be covered than than higher-paid employees.

There has been a downward trend in companies offering middle and low-income workers health insurance benefits. This has been going since way before ACA and was one of the reason for including this mandate for full-time employees of firms of a certain size.

Employers have been getting around this by keeping employee hours under the full-time level and by dividing their company into two parts and treating full-time employees as two part-time employees of two different companies.

Had lunch this week with a woman whose husband's employer did just that. He gets two W-2s and no health insurance. But then, his company never has offered health insurance to employees other than the top level managers.
All problems and reactions created by constant meddling by well-intentioned Government policies.
That is ending now.
What was your point?
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:02 AM
 
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If it is as great as they claim it is what is stopping them from telling us, in detail, what we can expect?

I'd like to see the complete plan before they repeal the current Affordable Care Act, wouldn't you?

Do you mean details like....
"If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor?"
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb Why can't the GOP release details of new health care plan?

Two reasons:

1) The ACA IS the GOP health plan. They hate it because Obama passed it.

2) They've only had seven years to come up with their "alternative." Don't rush those boys.


They have issues.

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Old 01-15-2017, 08:14 AM
 
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They have issues.
Hmm. The GOP controls....
  • US House
  • US Senate
  • US Presidency
  • who will be the next Scotus
  • majority of Governor's houses
  • 68 of 98 partisan state chambers
Based on that, I'd say it's the Democrats who have all the issues these days.
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Hmm. The GOP controls....
  • US House
  • US Senate
  • US Presidency
  • who will be the next Scotus
  • majority of Governor's houses
  • 68 of 98 partisan state chambers
Based on that, I'd say it's the Democrats who have all the issues these days.
We'll enjoy watching the Pubs drive the country into the ditch. Then it'll be up to the Dems to "Clean up in aisle USA" all over again.

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Old 01-15-2017, 08:27 AM
 
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Was this the bill that was created and passed with zero input from the Republicans?
What are you talking about? It had a ton of input from Republicans.

https://thinkprogress.org/paul-ryan-...768#.ibj59eexj
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:35 AM
 
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There is no replacement healthcare plan, for Republicans the repeal of Obamacare is all about delegitimizing any and all accomplishments by Obama during his tenure as President,you want healthcare? you are on your own with Republicans in charge.
This, 100 times this!^^ They are going to tell us their great idea is allowing people to buy across state lines. Oh, and if they have lots of extra money they can put it into a no-interest HSA so they can pay for their own $200,000 heart operation or $300,000 cancer treatments. Of course, they may have to delay that surgery or that treatment a few decades while they save enough money, but hey, they'll feel great that they are not inconveniencing their Republican overlords or costing the billionaires one extra dollar in taxes as they die for lack of care.

The rest of the world can cover their citizens with the basic human right of healthcare, but apparently, in the greatest country in the world, the American way is to leave everyone to fend for themselves, and die if they cannot.

That's the GOP's "plan." Don't you all feel safer and more secure now?
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:40 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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If it is as great as they claim it is what is stopping them from telling us, in detail, what we can expect?

I'd like to see the complete plan before they repeal the current Affordable Care Act, wouldn't you?
Why didn't the democrats before they forced the ACA upon us?
The ACA is a disaster by any measure. Even many on the left agree that it simply didn't deliver. Worse still, just about every short coming was called out when it was first released. The nay sayers were called obstructionists, but they were correct.
I would prefer we take a little time and benchmark against other successful programs and reapply.
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The Pub Plan:

"Go buy yourself some insurance from the corporations that pay for our campaigns."

"Unless you have one of those pesky pre-existing conditions. Then you're screwed. But it's your own fault for being born that way."

See ya!

Your Republican Party

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Old 01-15-2017, 08:41 AM
 
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We'll enjoy watching the Pubs drive the country into the ditch. Then it'll be up to the Dems to "Clean up in aisle USA" all over again.


Not all of us are enjoying watching Republicans drive our nation into the ditch yet again.

The FIB put their thumb on the scale for Trump, and is losing credibility by the minute.

Republicans have undermined our democratic elections with their gerrymandering, constant attempts at voter suppression, purging voter roles right before elections...

Thanks to Republicans, we will soon have a president who openly talks about being a Russian asset.

There may be no pulling us out of this ditch.

Health insurance may be one of the least of our worries.
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