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Old 01-18-2017, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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Actually the hottest years occurred during the last Inter-Glacial Period, but you don't seem to concerned with facts or reality.
Read what he wrote "... hottest on record..." and read the article linked-to for the period in question.
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Old 01-18-2017, 05:00 PM
 
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But all the Trump voters will say, "This here climate change can't be real, lookit all the snow and ice on muh back porch!"
The climate will always change.
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Old 01-18-2017, 05:06 PM
 
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Erff haz a fever. Everyone stop breathing!
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Old 01-18-2017, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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So?

It will eventually cool down. These things have cycles you know.

Not worried about it.
When it comes to taking your opinion or the opinion of the vast majority of scientists who have the education and experience, and study this stuff on a daily basis, to make a qualified assessment on AGW, I think I will side with the scientific community. It is the reason we have Universities to train and educate people to become scientists - we then rely on them to analyze complex situations and come up with well founded recommendations. And they have. If you choose to ignore it, that is your prerogative.
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Old 01-18-2017, 05:25 PM
 
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When it comes to taking your opinion or the opinion of the vast majority of scientists who have the education and experience, and study this stuff on a daily basis, to make a qualified assessment on AGW, I think I will side with the scientific community. It is the reason we have Universities to train and educate people to become scientists - we then rely on them to analyze complex situations and come up with well founded recommendations. And they have. If you choose to ignore it, that is your prerogative.
The utter ignorance of the above statement, which is often trotted out in these debates, never ceases to amaze me!

Do you SERIOUSLY think that science is done in a vacuum that is divorced from politics?
Why do people think science can be bought and corrupted when they accuse oil companies of doing it but refuse to think that NASA or these other government agencies and scientists are not influenced by politics, activism or an agenda?

I really get sick of how this issue keeps being presented in black and white terms, where it's noble scientists fighting for the planet versus the greedy capitalists who want to protect their profits!

The reality is that any politics, activism, ego and greed affect scientists on BOTH sides of this issue!
Google "Climategate" where emails from these scientists where hacked and they showed scientists manipulating data and seeking to silence critics by ruining their careers. The "investigation" that was conducted in it's wake was an utter FARCE! The very same guilty organizations were allowed to investigate themselves and *surprise* found nothing wrong.

Yes climate change is real and we need to clean up the environment and find cleaner energy.
I'm not denying that.
What I am saying is there are good scientists working who are skeptical of this and there are good scientists who are worried about it.
There are also scientists on BOTH sides who let politics, activism, ego and greed influence the science they conduct. Many don't have a choice! Good luck finding funding for your work if you announce findings that are skeptical of the current alarmism.
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Old 01-18-2017, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Putin put them there?
Where's Waldo?? Every time I ask the same question they disappear.
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Old 01-18-2017, 06:00 PM
 
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True a carbon tax won't effect the Milankovitch Cycles but it can certainly change mans habits.


Why is the earth heating the last 100 years?
Coming out of an ice age.
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Old 01-18-2017, 06:02 PM
 
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When it comes to taking your opinion or the opinion of the vast majority of scientists who have the education and experience, and study this stuff on a daily basis, to make a qualified assessment on AGW, I think I will side with the scientific community. It is the reason we have Universities to train and educate people to become scientists - we then rely on them to analyze complex situations and come up with well founded recommendations. And they have. If you choose to ignore it, that is your prerogative.
Feel free to gnash your teeth, fret impotently, while life goes on regardless of what people do.
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Old 01-18-2017, 06:07 PM
 
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"MIT climate scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen has ridiculed the ‘hottest year’ claims. “The uncertainty here is tenths of a degree. When someone points to this and says this is the warmest temperature on record, what are they talking about? It’s just nonsense. This is a very tiny change period,” Lindzen said. “If you can adjust temperatures to 2/10ths of a degree, it means it wasn’t certain to 2/10ths of a degree.”

Two satellite datasets agree: The Pause lives on: ‘No warming for the last 18 years’

RSS Confirm 2016 Is Tied With 1998 As Warmest Year

the margin of error is 0.1C, so statistically 2016 is tied with 1998 as the warmest year in the satellite record. The fact that there has been no warming for the last 18 years is a massive blow to the credibility of climate science.

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.word...-warmest-year/
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Old 01-18-2017, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Coming out of an ice age.
Assuming you are correct, does it just happen like sunrise and high tide, those we can explain.

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