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View Poll Results: Electoral college
We should keep it 115 77.18%
We should get rid of it 34 22.82%
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Old 01-20-2017, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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Keep it. It has worked, and worked well, for our entire country's history, including this and the last century.

There are 50 states. 2-4 should not dominate.
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Old 01-20-2017, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Seymour, CT
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Keep it. It has worked, and worked well, for our entire country's history, including this and the last century.

There are 50 states. 2-4 should not dominate.
In the current arrangement 4 already dominate.

Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina. These four states have more power than any others. There are a few more that could be considered powerful depending on your definition. Even by those standards, between 39-45 states are left in the dust.

The entire election is dependent on just swing states. If you don't live in a swing state, you might as well stay home (and this is exactly the problem).
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Old 01-20-2017, 07:19 AM
 
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The "solution", if one were actually needed (which it is not), would be for each state to allot its electoral votes by congressional district, since that's how the state's electors are numerated. The remaining two votes (for the senators) would go to the state winner, or split if a tie.
Want to see real political change? Repeal the 17th Amendment.
Scurrilous, despicable, condescending personal attacks on voters reflect the moral vacuity and intellectual disability of the attacker.
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Old 01-20-2017, 07:29 AM
 
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When it was enacted, only those with land could vote. Also, slaves were 3/5 of a person constitutionally, women couldn't vote, black men couldn't vote (until 1870 technically, but in reality 1965).

So yes, let's go ahead and default to the founding father's intentions.

It really is amazing how anyone would be okay with dynamically scaling power across the people. The electoral college is an antiquated system that disproportionately gives power to smaller states per person.

For instance, in Wyoming there are 3 electoral votes. When compared to the population, this is 143,000 people per electoral vote.

In California there are 55 votes, that's 500,000 people per electoral vote. That means that the people of Wyoming have 3/5s the voting power of Californians. In what world is this a fair system? Only a handful of states decide the election, which means those running don't even need to bother with the majority. What a nonsense system!
The "flaws" you note are the strengths of the system. 55 to 3 seems pretty wrong otherwise.
Oh, and that "3/5ths of a person" is and has been a lie since it was first uttered.
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Old 01-20-2017, 07:30 AM
 
Location: My House
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Neither answer is good.

I think it needs revamping.

Not sure I think nothing but a popular vote would be fair.
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Old 01-20-2017, 07:32 AM
 
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It is. California and New York lost population to Texas and Florida.

Wrong.
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Old 01-20-2017, 07:33 AM
 
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The electoral college system needed to be reformed to 21st century standards.
Twenty first century "standards" are exactly why we should keep it.
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Old 01-20-2017, 07:34 AM
 
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Neither answer is good.

I think it needs revamping.

Not sure I think nothing but a popular vote would be fair.

Are we not a Country of the people and for the people?Do we use the EC for anything else ?
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Old 01-20-2017, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Seymour, CT
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The "flaws" you note are the strengths of the system. 55 to 3 seems pretty wrong otherwise.
Oh, and that "3/5ths of a person" is and has been a lie since it was first uttered.
The three-fifths compromise was a thing. It gave more power to the south despite the fact that the slaves couldn't vote in the first place.

Giving some people nearly 4 times the power of others is hardly a balanced system.
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Old 01-20-2017, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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I say we get rid of voting altogether and become a dictatorship. At least then people wouldn't be under the illusion that "we are the government".
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