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Old 01-30-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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It should be a woman's choice when she becomes a parent.
It is. Sexual Intercourse is intended to procreate. Don't engage in an activity which has the basic consequence of creating life until you are ready and you will truly have made the choice as to when you should become a parent.


Just because you stop the heartbeat of your child, doesn't mean you stop being the parent of that unborn child. It just means that you, as that child's parent, felt your needs were more important than that of your unborn child's.
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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When the purpose of intercourse, at its MOST BASIC level is to procreate, then yes, every time you engage in sexual intercourse, regardless of YOUR intention, you are inherently agreeing to pregnancy, regardless of your attempts to thwart the natural purpose of the act itself.


Sorry, but to think otherwise is to be a science denier. When you play Russian roulette, you can't whine when you end up with a bullet through your head.


sex is no longer just about reproduction, hasn't been for a very long time. an older women done with having children is not "inherently agreeing" to pregnancy. nor are the millions of women taking BC. just because your body can reproduce doesn't mean it should against your own will.

abortion has been around as long as sex has. it is now safe and legal. women no longer use coat hangers or go to back yard abortionist.
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:37 AM
 
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I actually believe in planned parenthood. No children should be born without both parents there to help raise them.
People who create a child, become the parents of that child, regardless of whether they choose to stop its heartbeat or not.


When parents stop the heartbeat of their 3 year old, they are still parents. Nothing is different when parents stop the heart beat of their 16 week old fetus.
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Fist of all there is a tiny minority that wants abortion to be illegal. Secondly, BC is the responsibility of the person having sex as is the child that comes with it for not being proactive. If you don't want to get pregnant and don't want to use BC, then don't have sex. If you still have sex and you get pregnant, it's you're own fault and you're own responsibility. it's that damn simple.


Actually, there is a smaller number of individuals who want abortion illegal in all circumstances than those who want abortion legal in all circumstances.


The majority wants aborting illegal in most circumstances, but not all.


Abortion | Gallup Historical Trends
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:41 AM
 
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saying yes to sex is not saying yes to pregnancy, labor delivery, raising or giving up a baby. lots of responsible women taking BC that fail. most women who abort do pay for it themselves.

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Hmm yeah which is way sex involves using reproductive organs. You are not merely your conscious mind or what you intend.

The basic problem is feminism and their idiotic idea of unleashing their sexual freedom. Like someone bidding on a house, they figure only they will apply for a cheap loan and not another person bidding against them. The affects are easy to predict. Aging feminists having to compete with young women is causing back lash. They do not dare directly go after the sisterhood, but they are clearly looking towards the burka , female modesty as a "body image" issue as well as attempting to attack male sexuality for responding to female assets. However young women have to compete with each other for male attention as well, at least for the ones they want.

What makes it even worse is sex is an equilibrium of indirect communication were even a simple manner of dress is meant to advertise availability or not. In one culture it could be showing ankles. In another it could be showing cleavage. In multicultural societies, its chaos. A Muslim man looking at a Western women more or less grew up thinking she is adverting sex. If woman wears a burka she can forgot about Western men because that will be interpreted as off the market. Even conservative dress might cause lack of attention . Women have no way to know how or what to signal.

How hilarious, feminists created a female open market , with not only no rules, but no cultural norms in multiculturalism. The lumpenproletariat among them is unhappy both in premature obsolescence when they are old and in having to offer sex to out compete another woman when they are young. What did ya think would happen feminist morons?
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:42 AM
 
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sex is no longer just about reproduction, hasn't been for a very long time. an older women done with having children is not "inherently agreeing" to pregnancy. nor are the millions of women taking BC. just because your body can reproduce doesn't mean it should against your own will.

abortion has been around as long as sex has. it is now safe and legal. women no longer use coat hangers or go to back yard abortionist.


Reality begs to differ with you. The only way for humans to reproduce naturally is through sexual intercourse. The reality is that anytime you engage in sexual intercourse, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU INTEND, the purpose of sexual intercourse is reproduction. You may intend to engage in sex for many reasons, but that doesn't change the underlying purpose that remains unchanged since the dawn of time. And that is to create offspring.


Sometimes you eat when you are bored or sometimes you eat when you are hungry, regardless of your intent when it comes to putting food in your mouth, the purpose of ingesting food is to fuel your body.


Same concept.


Your reasoning is the same as someone who gets fat eating food and blames the diet pills for not working.
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:43 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Not selfish, again you cheat society of your talent as well as yourself.

My fiance herself had an abortion 10 years ago, and though it was a painful experience, she's glad she did. The father was a drunk, abusive, beat her constantly, and neither of them really made any money. What kind of household would that have been to bring an unwanted kid into?
What kind of woman hangs around with a drunk, abusive, deadbeat?

...nevermind.
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:43 AM
 
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It should be a woman's choice when she becomes a parent.



Totally agree.


Use effective and redundant BC and you won't have to worry about getting knocked-up.
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:44 AM
 
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People who create a child, become the parents of that child, regardless of whether they choose to stop its heartbeat or not.


When parents stop the heartbeat of their 3 year old, they are still parents. Nothing is different when parents stop the heart beat of their 16 week old fetus.
huge difference a 3 year old is not dependent on an individual's womb to continue to survive. anyone can take care of a 3 year old or newborn.
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:45 AM
 
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I don't believe that men should be able to just walk away either, but that is exactly what the culture of abortion has done: it has alleviated men from the responsibility of taking care of their offspring.
Culture of abortion. Abortion has been around since the Egyptians 1550 BC and probably before that. Talk about lack of logic, abortion has alleviated men from being responsible for their offspring. Really, because abortion aside some men walk away from the responsibility of their offspring (some women do to0). You know actual living, breathing offspring not a potential could have developed into a real living child.

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Plenty of good people were raised by parents making minimun wage. Why do you liberals think that only rich people can have good lives?
I'm not a liberal but It is not always the best to throw away your opportunity to develop a lasting career so that you can live comfortably and raise a child with more advantages than to know that you will always struggle financially just to put food on the table for your child.
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