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Old 02-07-2017, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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These liberal judges and socialist states are going to cause a civil war.
The sooner the better. It's long overdue.

The communist filth has to be taken out.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:39 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Which attacks would Trumps present ban have prevented, the Boston Bombers were from Russia, the San Bernardino attacker was home grown although his accomplice was here on a visa, the Florida Night club shooter was home grown, the NJ bomber was home grown. The Ohio State U was in fact a refugee is that worthy of a travel ban.
Home grown? And it was a temporary travel ban. TRAVEL to any of the countries on the list, and your request for re-entry requires additional vetting.

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More people have been killed by South American gangs yet this is Trump's priority.
Place a temporary ban on those from Mexico and SA, as well, to improve vetting.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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It was the Washington State AG who brought this to the judge. The AG stated, among other reasons that this Executive Order was unconstitutional because people's rights were being violated. Non-citizens, outside of our country have no Constitutional rights. It is a privilege to be granted entry to the U.S., not a right.
When I first heard of this ruling on the news I was perplexed because of that most obvious fact. I have no understanding of this decision, obviously I have not read it, or how a State Attorney General and a Judge have any interest in immigration policy or law.

Completely perplexing to me.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia Area
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Trump's EO will not be overturned by the SCOTUS.

Look at it from this angle... If the SCOTUS comes back and says "nope, you can't limit immigration to the united states" then what does that mean for the USA as a sovereign nation? Wouldnt that mean that whomever applies for immigration, visa, work permit, etc must automatically be admitted?

Viewing it from that angle alone is enough to show that there is no constitutional argument against his EO b/c it is ludicrous to think that we are not constitutionally permitted to control immigration into our countty.
Great point.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Great point.



you all forgot that we approved the ones not permitted to enter or fly or board- if you want to stop future applicants that would have been reasonable- you're cuckoo puffs just like your orange top leader
we have to stand behind rule of law-- and they were lawfully permitted-
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:57 AM
 
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you all forgot that we approved the ones not permitted to enter or fly or board- if you want to stop future applicants that would have been reasonable- you're cuckoo puffs just like your orange top leader
we have to stand behind rule of law-- and they were lawfully permitted-
The POTUS has every right and authority to say that the previous vetting wasn't good enough.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:58 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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you all forgot that we approved the ones not permitted to enter or fly or board- if you want to stop future applicants that would have been reasonable- you're cuckoo puffs just like your orange top leader
we have to stand behind rule of law-- and they were lawfully permitted-
Not in the country = not yet lawfully admitted entry/re-entry.

How do you not know that.

I gave a detailed explanation earlier in the thread, citing SCOTUS.
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Old 02-07-2017, 09:59 AM
 
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The POTUS has every right and authority to say that the previous vetting wasn't good enough.
100% correct.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:01 AM
 
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you all forgot that we approved the ones not permitted to enter or fly or board- if you want to stop future applicants that would have been reasonable- you're cuckoo puffs just like your orange top leader
we have to stand behind rule of law-- and they were lawfully permitted-
The final approval for the entry is with the custom and border control not at the embassy. The visa the foreigners receive is no guarantee of entry. This is even true for green card.
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Old 02-07-2017, 10:06 AM
 
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you all forgot that we approved the ones not permitted to enter or fly or board- if you want to stop future applicants that would have been reasonable- you're cuckoo puffs just like your orange top leader
we have to stand behind rule of law-- and they were lawfully permitted-
yes, but anyone that is NOT a legal citizen (defined as either natural born or naturalized) - can be denied entry by revoking green card, visas, or other instruments used for non-citizen entry.

it really is that simple. You'll see.
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