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Old 02-07-2017, 01:02 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Mateen the Orlando Night Club shooter was born in the US, how are you going to screen 2nd generation immigrants, what heavy vetting will eliminate people like him?
Mateen was actually listed on two federal watch lists: the Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment (classified), and the Terrorist Screening Database. The background check that was run when he bought the weapon used in the nightclub massacre would have caught Mateen, but for reasons that have never been explained, the Obama Admin removed his name in 2014.

There are a lot of security risks left over from the Obama Administration, such as the following:

Federal agents are reinvestigating Syrian refugees in U.S. who may have slipped through vetting lapse - LA Times

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So why wasn't Central America included in the travel ban, we had around 5 innocent people killed just on Long Island in the past several months by some of these gangs, after all this ban is about making us safe. Those 7 countries are far from our largest problem when it comes to terror.
Because Trump used Obama's list. I agree Mexico and Central and South America should be added.
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Old 02-07-2017, 01:07 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Right, because an appreciation for the principle of freedom of religion just doesn't carry any weight with you.
The only reason progressive liberals are suddenly concerned with freedom of religion is because it isn't Christianity. Other than that they usually insult people for believing in a so called made up "sky god". They are quick to point out that not all Muslims are terrorists but also quick to lump all Christians together.
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Old 02-07-2017, 01:12 PM
 
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Hmmmm.....

https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/...-0-0-1928.html

Immigration law, so complex.
Notification doesn't apply in this case. Read your link again, carefully.
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Old 02-07-2017, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Did you not realize that Trump was elected to the office because the following campaign promises:

1. Get rid of illegals
2. Vet refugees properly and reduce their numbers.
3. Nominate a SC judge who will rule by the law
4. Put America first


All true but I this is a 90-120 day ban on legal immigration, I'm betting quite a few of his moderate supporters didn't expect that.
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Old 02-07-2017, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Democrats not liking something doesn't make it unconstitutional.

The fact remains, whatever Trump said during the campaign is irrelevant, the order applies to everyone equally, so it is constitutional.
This is a Federal Court ruling, they seem to have some doubts about his XO or it would not have gone this far, not just one judge but several. I don't recall Obama questioning any judges qualifications when they ruled against his XO's and the ACA, this is personal. Trump's statements during the campaign and putting together a team to legally exclude Muslims is most certainly relevant.
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Old 02-07-2017, 01:29 PM
 
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The only reason progressive liberals are suddenly concerned with freedom of religion is because it isn't Christianity. Other than that they usually insult people for believing in a so called made up "sky god". They are quick to point out that not all Muslims are terrorists but also quick to lump all Christians together.
Wrong.

Progressive liberals have always been concerned with our First Amendment freedoms.
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Old 02-07-2017, 01:58 PM
 
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It's a four-month ban on people who have literally never even been to America, and it's completely constitutional. Good grief. What do these "refugees" have that democrats want so badly? Drugs? Good sex? What is it? [another voter block to brainwash and exploit]. Most of the people raising the most fuss are literally the least impacted.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:48 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The judge is a Republican, appointed by a Republican. No politics involved in his decision.


He is a Progressive Globalist. Doesn't matter what party they chose to fool us with.
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Old 02-07-2017, 02:51 PM
 
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Wrong.

Progressive liberals have always been concerned with our First Amendment freedoms.
Liberals only want the freedom of speech for speeches that they agree with.
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Old 02-07-2017, 03:10 PM
 
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Liberals only want the freedom of speech for speeches that they agree with.
That's baldly untrue.
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