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Obama refused to veto a UN resolution about the actions of a nation, anti-Semitism by definition is aimed at the practitioners of a specific religion, your questions make no sense.
Actually, they do make sense. Israel's population is 75% Jewish.
So, again... WHY would Obama side with anti-Semitic countries? HOW is a US President promoting anti-Semitism good for the US?
Thank you. I don't think Trump is an anti Semite. I also have explained what you have said already. Trump has a Jewish daughter, two Jewish daughter in-laws from his son marriages, and more than three Jewish grandchildren, and his son in law Jared is Jewish. If Trump was anti Semitic, these relationships would have never happen between Jews and his children. Also Trump is a big supporter of Israel. If Trump was anti Jewish, he would have not support the state of Israel. Trump is also not anti muslim either, he does business with plenty of Muslims and has Muslim friends.
Hah.
My brother's in-laws are wildly antisemitic. Some of the things they have said to me would make your hair stand on end. They *love* my brother. Love him. He's their most successful in-law and they treat him like their own son. My brother also claims they really like me, even though they believe I'm going to hell and tell me as much. We tend to think they like my brother because they assume that as a Jew, he will use his magical Jew powers to summon up gold and power for their daughter and their family. Sound familiar? The Kushners are much wealthier than the Trumps. Meanwhile, my brother and I are still waiting for the Elders of Zion to pull us into their van and give us those secrets. They're also HUGE supports of Israel. They'll tell me in one breath that the Jews have been kicked out of every European country because we're scheming, but they just LOVE Israel, dontcha know.
My dad's not Jewish and his siblings aren't big fans of Jews either, but they love us. Loving individual Jewish members of your family does not cancel out being anti-semitic. Some people are really good at compartmentalizing. There's also the "good Jew"/"bad Jew" phenomenon, which we see with Trump talking about how he only wants the "men with the funny little hats" dealing with his money.
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What's best for Israel is best for the world AND the U.S.
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Oh please, that's a ridiculous assumption!
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I expected an unbiased response.
See how that works?
IF you "expected an unbiased response" you're very foolish!
I'm an American, I live in America, and I AM biased towards America doing what's best for America, NOT some silly notion that what may be best for any other country automatically becomes best for America.
See how that works?
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Actually, they do make sense. Israel's population is 75% Jewish.
So, again... WHY would Obama side with anti-Semitic countries? HOW is a US President promoting anti-Semitism good for the US?
I don't give a rat's ass if Israel's 100% Jewish, it's NOT the only home of Jewish people in the world and disagreement with the actions of the nation of Israel and its government, which certainly doesn't enjoy approval by 100% of Israelis, is NOT anti-Semitic despite the knee-jerk reactions of so many incapable of understanding the difference.
You can try selling all the wolf-tickets you want, I'm not buying into the lies.
well, I know a lot of Jewish folks; my trauma counselor, my art institute professors, my grandfather's and my dad's business partner, a guy whom I dated..
I think jealousy is an ugly thing. For whatever reasons, Jews are generally very successful, not only in material terms, but creatively, scientifically, intellectually. Many people cannot stand that, so they decided Jews should be hated simply because of their own jealousy issues.
This said, Anyone can be an antisemite. Antisemitism is not the hatred of Judaism nor is it hatred of people who practice the Judaism. Antisemitism is the hatred of Jews as a people. It can also be the sincere belief that the Jews are not a people and thus do not deserve a state.
I assume the main point here is that Jews are hated for striving for success because their success is perceived as controlling and dominating when in reality It is challenging to formulate a coherent and competent argument which is compelling enough to persuade someone that there is a more 'ethically correct or morally tight version of success that does not involve dominating and controlling in some sense of the word.
SOME people hate Jews, just as some others hate Greeks, Germans, Americans, blacks, Christians, men, women, cats, dogs etc.
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well, I know a lot of Jewish folks; my trauma counselor, my art institute professors, my grandfather's and my dad's business partner, a guy whom I dated..
I think jealousy is an ugly thing. For whatever reasons, Jews are generally very successful, not only in material terms, but creatively, scientifically, intellectually. Many people cannot stand that, so they decided Jews should be hated simply because of their own jealousy issues.
This said, Anyone can be an antisemite. Antisemitism is not the hatred of Judaism nor is it hatred of people who practice the Judaism. Antisemitism is the hatred of Jews as a people. It can also be the sincere belief that the Jews are not a people and thus do not deserve a state.
I assume the main point here is that Jews are hated for striving for success because their success is perceived as controlling and dominating when in reality It is challenging to formulate a coherent and competent argument which is compelling enough to persuade someone that there is a more 'ethically correct or morally tight version of success that does not involve dominating and controlling in some sense of the word.
SOME people hate Jews, just as some others hate Greeks, Germans, Americans, blacks, Christians, men, women, cats, dogs etc.
When hate is involved, logic is absent.
Do I believe President Trump is anti-semitic? No.
Can you explain the difference between "people who practice Judaism" and "Jews as a people"?
IF you "expected an unbiased response" you're very foolish!
I'm an American, I live in America, and I AM biased towards America doing what's best for America, NOT some silly notion that what may be best for any other country automatically becomes best for America.
See how that works?
Are you isolationist?
You do not care that Israel is a democracy in a hotbed region? And that it is to our benefit to help it remain so?
I don't give a rat's ass if Israel's 100% Jewish, it's NOT the only home of Jewish people in the world and disagreement with the actions of the nation of Israel and its government, which certainly doesn't enjoy approval by 100% of Israelis, is NOT anti-Semitic despite the knee-jerk reactions of so many incapable of understanding the difference.
Yes, it is anti-Semitic. Think back to WHY the Nation State of Israel was created.
So, again, answer the questions... WHY would Obama side with anti-Semitic countries? HOW is a US President promoting anti-Semitism good for the US?
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Are you isolationist?
No, I'm a devout non-interventionist.
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You do not care that Israel is a democracy in a hotbed region? And that it is to our benefit to help it remain so?
What I believe is the issues in the region existed long before we were a nation and can only be resolved by the countries of the region. We have more than enough long ignored domestic issues to keep us busy.
BTW, why should Americans get all warm and fuzzy about Israel being a democracy when the US isn't one?
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They're also HUGE supports of Israel. They'll tell me in one breath that the Jews have been kicked out of every European country because we're scheming, but they just LOVE Israel, dontcha know. 
