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I've never said Trump was an anti-Semite. I dislike him because I grew up in the NYC area and have watched him for 35+ years and came to the opinion he simply isn't a trustworthy man.
I didn't say you said Trump was an anti-semitic, sorry that I quoted you.
This thread is about anti-semitism, so my post is related to the op. So sorry about that.
Not sure what people expect Trump to do about people who feel a certain way. We can talk about it. We can label people, but is Trump supposed to do?
I am not anti-Israel but I am against many of their policies and I am against how much we give Israel in foreign aid. To many that means that I am anti-Israel.
So what should Trump do?
Not sure what people expect Trump to do about people who feel a certain way. We can talk about it. We can label people, but is Trump supposed to do?
I am not anti-Israel but I am against many of their policies and I am against how much we give Israel in foreign aid. To many that means that I am anti-Israel. So what should Trump do?
America first, work with everybody. That is it. This is why a lot of people voted for him.
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Perhaps the difference in opinion is between sectarian and non-sectarian Jews, much like the difference in opinion between left and right here in this country.
Sectarian and non-sectarian Jews? Wouldn't it be better described as sectarian and non-sectarian Israelis?
Can you explain the difference between "people who practice Judaism" and "Jews as a people"?
I would take them to be the same thing.
Judaism is both an ethnicity and a religion. You can be Jewish ethnically (see: cultural Jews) but not follow the Jewish faith. I consider myself a Jewish agnostic, but still go to synagogue, participate in the ritual, and plan on raising my children in a synagogue. Judaism is passed down through the mother so even if you never practice, if your mother is Jewish then you are Jewish.
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Not sure what people expect Trump to do about people who feel a certain way. We can talk about it. We can label people, but is Trump supposed to do?
I am not anti-Israel but I am against many of their policies and I am against how much we give Israel in foreign aid. To many that means that I am anti-Israel.
So what should Trump do?
Trump should be speaking out since the wave of antisemitism currently rising in the US is led by his supporters. Instead, at a press conference, he doubled down on a Jewish reporter by not addressing his question and instead insisting that he's not an antisemite. To the Jews of the country, that showed just how much he's toeing the antisemitism line.
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HOW is siding with anti-Semitic countries at the UN and promoting anti-Semitism in the US "best for the US?"
Do tell...
As I've said, a meaningless question until you first prove Obama did anything but what he believed best for the US. IF he did what he believed best for the US, whatever other nations his actions are viewed as 'siding with' are irrelevant.
Sectarian and non-sectarian Jews? Wouldn't it be better described as sectarian and non-sectarian Israelis?
Yes indeed. Mea culpa. -- I think of them as one people, all deserving justice, consideration, benefits, aid, right to life and peace and prosperity -- and support US support to that end.
Perhaps the difference in opinion is between sectarian and non-sectarian Jews, much like the difference in opinion between left and right here in this country.
Each group is bound to see it differently. Netanyahu's re-election is a stunning poll-defying feat and is notable. It was much like what happened here. The people spoke. They wanted change. Their primary concern is security, economy and strong leadership. Doesn't that reflect what we wanted too? Security, jobs, enforcement of the rule of law ( all of which are impossible without strong leadership). In fact, Obama told law enforcement in certain instances to "look the other way" and ignore the law; look at the resulting chaos.
"It was a stunning turnabout from the last pre-election polls...Mr. Netanyahu embarked on a last-minute scorched-earth campaign, promising that no Palestinian state would be established as long as he remained in office and insulting Arab citizens."
“I am proud of the Israeli people that, in the moment of truth, knew how to separate between what’s important or what’s not and to stand up for what’s important,” Zionist leader Herzog told an exuberant crowd at Likud’s election party at the Tel Aviv Fairgrounds. “For the most important thing for all of us, which is real security, social economy and strong leadership.”
Mr. Herzog called the election “an incredible achievement.” He said he had formed a negotiating team and still hoped to lead “a real social government in Israel” that “aspires to peace with our neighbors.”
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Judaism is both an ethnicity and a religion. You can be Jewish ethnically (see: cultural Jews) but not follow the Jewish faith. I consider myself a Jewish agnostic, but still go to synagogue, participate in the ritual, and plan on raising my children in a synagogue. Judaism is passed down through the mother so even if you never practice, if your mother is Jewish then you are Jewish.
I was raised RC so much of this is foreign to me. Are converts to Judaism considered 'lesser' Jews than those born to Jewish mothers? I don't have an ax to grind with whatever people choose to believe, at least until they try to tell me it's what I should believe.
Trump should be speaking out since the wave of antisemitism currently rising in the US is led by his supporters.
Amazing statement without substantiation. I think that's absurd.
Please show how it is "led by his supporters".
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-- I think of them as one people, all deserving justice, consideration, benefits, aid, right to life and peace and prosperity -- and support US support to that end. 
