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No able bodied working age adult should be on permanent welfare.
They will just move to a state that will give them the assistance. I had a family member who would get welfare in California, while living in Mississippi. She just gave another family member's address, when the money came in, it was sent to Mississippi. She didn't want to apply in Mississippi, because she got more benefits from California. She would move back and forth. The welfare system always seemed to pay for her and her 5 kids to travel back and forth. Would surprise most of us in the family, since most of us, couldn't even afford to leave our own state for vacation.
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry
When people don't eat, they do desperate things. Like work.
Or like rob people. I had a co-worker back when I worked construction who had done 8 years in prison for nearly beating a man to death with a baseball bat because he wanted his money, hadn't eaten in 4 days when it happened
Seems like a pretty straightforward question. If you are too lazy to work 24 hours a month, are you really going to try to find a job when you're kicked off the benefits wagon, or are you going to look for the quickest and easiest ways to put money in your pocket?
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.
That is exactly what welfare does, it gives a man/woman a fish for a day. But only for that day. It does not prepare them to live on their own for a lifetime. On welfare, they will never be able to work themselves up, own their home, save for retirement or earn social security. They will be poor the rest of their lives.
Not true.
I have been on assistance periodically in the last 13 years. I worked fulltime but assistance has helped me cover my shortage between my income and cost of living. I have owned a house and a retirement account for the entire time.
Won't the bleeding heart liberals be uset about these freeloaders not betting free stuff?! Afterall, we're not supposed to hold people personally accountable in todays America!
This is exactly the kind of attitude that prevents any real solution to the problem of poverty from solidifying.
A lot of able bodied welfare leeches don't give a thought to " dignity and self worth"
In the late 1980's, a major boat manufacturer was expanding and needed to double its work force from 300 -600 workers.
The Federal govt offered to pay part of their wages in the training phase if the company hired people on welfare. Nearly all of those 300 were hired that way.
The work was hard..........pay and benefits were good and lots of overtime.
One day at closing time a young single mother seemed depressed and was crying.
The foreman came over to console her and ask what was wrong.
She stated............." I work so hard yet at the end of the month I don't feel I'm farther ahead than I was before working"
The foreman said............" but you are doing it all on your own . Paying your rent, feeding your kids, paying for daycare. You are no longer dependant on assistance from the govt "
"Big f'ing deal"..........she snapped at the foreman !
She is now working long hours and someone else is raising her kids. How is that a better system?
To follow state guideline I would imagine they would consult official documentation on the subject.
Some people are too...I can only say stupid to do that.
FWIW, I worked with the public in a government capacity. A lot of the people in our country who go on public welfare programs for an extended period of time are not very bright and they need a lot of hand holding on simple things.
So my questions come from that perspective. There are a lot of people who won't help themselves because they don't know how to do so.
She is now working long hours and someone else is raising her kids. How is that a better system?
It's a better system because there is potential for her to better herself. Living within the system has absolutely zero chance to ever getting out of the cycle of poverty.
So if they have to go to an "approved" place to volunteer...
Much of Maine is very rural. It's likely that some rural people would have to drive an hour or so each way to get to an approved volunteer location. Being super poor, they might not have a car that's reliable enough to go that far for volunteer work, especially during Maine's winter. Maybe they don't even own a car. Then they'd have to walk to the volunteer location or get a ride from someone else.
There are some people that are so dirt poor that they really have these situations. It gets into the chicken/egg scenario. They don't have a job so no money for a car. But because they don't have a car they can't get to a job. They need the car to get a job but need money to get the car. I have seen posters here on city-data with this exact dimemma. They were searching for jobs but didn't have a car to get to work and didn't have money to buy a car. Many were young adults/just starting out in life.
You can bet that some of these people in this exact scenario just got their food stamps cut off. How they get themselves out of that perpetual hole, who knows. When you live in a rural area, if you don't have a car, you are pretty much stuck. City people have it much easier because of public transportation and because easier to walk to businesses due to less open space.
Max food stamp allotment for 1 person is $194/mo.
Thank your lucky stars you aren't dirt poor and stuck in a rut.
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