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Old 02-21-2017, 11:47 AM
 
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Makes one wonder how they get to the welfare office, health department, grocery store, etc.

As much as I detest the influx of illegal aliens when they descended on our town to work at Perdue, they would walk to work, then ride a bicycle then finally get a beater and give all their friends a ride.
You can apply for foodstamps online today and you are not required to go to the office.
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Old 02-21-2017, 11:47 AM
 
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And you're assuming that someone who's so lazy they can't be bothered to work 24 hours a MONTH, somehow has the drive and skillsets to be an employee somewhere.

Let's assume this Joe Layabout really does try to get a job even though he hates the thought of working... Do you really think there aren't going to be better qualified people also applying to those jobs? What happens when employers see him for what he is and opt to hire the other guys, who actually seem like they could be good employees...?

Now you have someone who doesn't want to work, can't get a job, and doesn't have any money to feed himself. How exactly do you see that scenario playing out?

But you're right... him turning to crime is the far less likely outcome.
So you're good with opening your wallet and supporting others because they don't want to work. I'll be the 1st to sign up - please send me directions to your area as I want to be close by so I get the money ASAP.
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Old 02-21-2017, 11:47 AM
 
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I saw an interesting documentary the other day about poverty in the US. One single mother with 5 kids in New York lost all aid when she got a raise from $8/hr to $11/hr. She was worse off with that raise than before it.

The threshold should be updated to current COL, imho. Then people will be more empowered by working than they would otherwise.
I'm curious as to how she came to the place where she has five kids while making so little?

Did she have a husband with really good pay who died?

What were the circumstances?
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Old 02-21-2017, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Your assuming the majority will turn to crime.
Your assuming they will be caught.
Your assuming those convicted of a crime will actually go to prison or get a lengthy jail sentence.

when hungry, sick, and desperate YES-YES And YES
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Old 02-21-2017, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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So you're good with opening your wallet and supporting others because they don't want to work. I'll be the 1st to sign up - please send me directions to your area as I want to be close by so I get the money ASAP.

arrogant statement- what were the reasons did not comply?
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Old 02-21-2017, 11:52 AM
 
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No they are certainly not. I know this is a stereotype that never goes away. From my experience, poor people tend to vote Republican because they are always social conservatives. Just like union members. Almost all union members I know vote Republican.

Added by edit.

Why am I a liberal? Because I genuinely want to help the poor despite them voting against my rights every time. Like I said, ignoring poverty or cutting them loose does not solve anything.
Yet, you support a party that want to import 50-70 million poor illegal immigrants to further divvy up the pie. That's like screw the poor Americans from behind with a freight train. On that issue along, I would never vote for the Democrats.

Your compassion is great, but how is it in anyway moral, fair and just to take the money from the people by violence and just give to those who refuse to feed themselves?
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Old 02-21-2017, 11:53 AM
 
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Hi there. My family was imported into this country from a 3rd world country. My parents worked tirelessly...
I think goods and products are imported. People migrate. Your parents were immigrants. Did they come in as refugees?
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Old 02-21-2017, 11:54 AM
 
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You can apply for foodstamps online today and you are not required to go to the office.
So one can afford a computer or iphone and wifi but cant afford to work?
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Old 02-21-2017, 11:57 AM
 
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So one can afford a computer or iphone and wifi but cant afford to work?
Lots of people have phone and/or internet or they have a library nearby where they can get assistance. I bought my kid a trac phone from the grocery store that is a smart phone for $5. You can get a card that includes data, text, and talking for $10. You don't need a computer, an iphone or wi-fi to have access to data/internet services today.

You can also call the foodstamp/welfare office and they can fill out an application for you via a landline phone. Due to SNAP being a federal program, it has to have a lot of accessibility built in so people can get assistance.

ETA: It is odd to me that you mentioned iphones and computers in relation to getting online. It shows that you don't understand what it means to be "poor" in America. You don't need an iphone to have a "smart" phone. You can get cheap android phones for free with a Walmart Plan or Metro PCS. Many of the residents in the housing communities I worked in had trac phones they got at the dollar store for $5. They were android based smart phones. That's what gave me the idea to get one for my own kid when he was 12. He has an iphone now, but I still have the $5 android and they still are sold at dollar stores and the grocery store for $4.99.
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Old 02-21-2017, 11:58 AM
 
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So one can afford a computer or iphone and wifi but cant afford to work?
Library has free use of computers and free internet access.
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