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Old 03-01-2017, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Glen Greenwald piece on this thing.

https://theintercept.com/2017/03/01/...ar-propaganda/
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Old 03-02-2017, 01:08 AM
 
Location: USA
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Heh, Yemen and the Russians are fighting terrorism. They are not on our side, right?
I say let the Russians use up their Military Equipment all they want, and we can keep ours at home.
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Old 03-02-2017, 04:15 AM
 
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He is entitled to nothing. The son was an adult. How many parents whose kids died on D-Day asked for an investigation?
Good point. How many parents, wives, etc. asked for an investigation as to why 4,500 died looking for wmds?
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Old 03-02-2017, 07:25 AM
 
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I don't quite understand the thought process here.

When people join military, they have decided that they will be ready to die for the country, for any reason, right or wrong.

We can question the judgment of our commanders, but at the end of day, every commander makes decisions based imprecise or even conflicting information. Often, that's just a judgment call or damned either way.

So where's the angry from?
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Old 03-02-2017, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I don't quite understand the thought process here.

When people join military, they have decided that they will be ready to die for the country, for any reason, right or wrong.

We can question the judgment of our commanders, but at the end of day, every commander makes decisions based imprecise or even conflicting information. Often, that's just a judgment call or damned either way.

So where's the angry from?
I think the anger comes from grief. You cannot really reason with a grieving dad. I'd give him some time.

I agree with the rest of your post.
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Old 03-02-2017, 10:16 AM
 
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I think the anger comes from grief. You cannot really reason with a grieving dad. I'd give him some time.

I agree with the rest of your post.
The Confederates to this day don't like former President Abraham Lincoln viewing the North's War of Agression (Hmm... sounds like an "agressive Russia") as an unjust and equally unneeded war. But I doubt they are grieving.

The US should never have been involved in Libya or Syria or Yemen or Iran or the Ukraine in the first place.
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Old 03-02-2017, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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The Confederates to this day don't like former President Abraham Lincoln viewing the North's War of Agression (Hmm... sounds like an "agressive Russia") as an unjust and equally unneeded war. But I doubt they are grieving.

The US should never have been involved in Libya or Syria or Yemen or Iran or the Ukraine in the first place.
I have no ideas what point you are trying make with your first paragraph. I believe the dad is still grieving because he lost his son a month ago. So it is understandable that he is still angry.

I don't disagree with your second paragraph.

Overall, I have no ideas why you quoted me. and I don't mean to disrespect you, I genuinely have no ideas what your point is.
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Old 03-02-2017, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Sunshine state
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I don't quite understand the thought process here.

When people join military, they have decided that they will be ready to die for the country, for any reason, right or wrong.

We can question the judgment of our commanders, but at the end of day, every commander makes decisions based imprecise or even conflicting information. Often, that's just a judgment call or damned either way.

So where's the angry from?
It's grief. Everyone handles grief differently. Remember Cindy Sheehan? I personally felt awful for her and what she went through; she lost her marriage, sold her house so she could camp out in front of Bush's residence in TX in search of answers, etc. At the same time, I was appalled at the way she expressed her grief. She did it all to honor her son's sacrifice, but I felt she was actually cheapening her son's sacrifice, which was total opposite of what she was trying to do. This father probably felt the same way.
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Old 03-02-2017, 10:40 AM
 
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Good point. How many parents, wives, etc. asked for an investigation as to why 4,500 died looking for wmds?
There were a lot of protests led by Cindy Sheehan. They all ended in November 2007. The wars certainly didn't.
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Old 03-02-2017, 10:41 AM
 
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I don't quite understand the thought process here.

When people join military, they have decided that they will be ready to die for the country, for any reason, right or wrong.
I can't imagine anyone thinks that.

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We can question the judgment of our commanders, but at the end of day, every commander makes decisions based imprecise or even conflicting information. Often, that's just a judgment call or damned either way.

So where's the angry from?
We have absolutely NO business being in Yemen. None.
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