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The guy was a SEAL and he went on a mission. Soldiers die on missions, from all manner of causes: from lead, to crashes, to shrapnel, to friendly fire.
When you sign up for the most hazardous job in the world, and participate in one of the most hazardous tasks in the world, there is a large chance of death. I feel for the family, as a person who has lost close family to war, but the job is the job and the father needs to accept that without politicizing his son's job.
did Obama served? did Hillary served? did Bubba Clinton served? are they Chicken hawks too?.....how many military deaths under their orders and policies caused?
but of course this is one more excuse to bash Trump.
if his father doesn't want to talk to Trump that's fine but his son joined the most elite unit (or one of ) in the armed forces and most of their missions are behind enemy lines gathering INTEL. That's their job....his son knew that when he volunteer to sign up, when he was training and when he graduated a Seal and kept doing missions to stay qualified. He signed a contract and most of their missions and reasons are classified so his dad can't be demanding details of the mission or missions and why?
Trump playing golf has nothing to do with it because all Presidents play golf including Bubba and Barry.
Are they Chickenhawks. Depends on your definition.
Obama - No, not called. He did not need an excuse not to go. He sent soldiers into war. Not a war drum beater.
Hillary - No, not called. Not required to go.
Clinton - No, was called. Found reasons not to go. He did not start any wars, but US did participate. Not a war drum beater.
tRump - Yes, was called. Found a reason not to go. He sent soldiers into war. Is a war drum beater.
Whether or not the son volunteered has little to nothing to do with the fathers desire to know if his son's life was wasted or not. If I was looking for an explanation, I would not want one from someone who did not have a direct and immediate involvement in the decision. The reference to golf is to say that tRump probably has no feeling about the sons death that would trouble him any longer than it would take to play a round of golf.
Owens’ father, Bill, had learned only a short time before the ceremony that Trump was coming. Owens was sitting with his wife, Marie, and other family members in the solemn, living room-like space where the loved ones of the fallen assemble before they are taken to the flight line.
“I’m sorry, I don’t want to see him,’’ Owens recalled telling the chaplain who informed him that Trump was on his way from Washington. “I told them I don’t want to meet the President.”
Will there be an investigation?
Sorry but if the dad wants answers and doesn't want to speak to the President then I doubt he wants answers. Regardless of being hurt, if the father can talk to the highest ranked person in the Country that can perhaps gives him some answers then it is the fathers miss.
I know that under Obama, many parents of fallen soldiers were requesting to talk to Obama or Clinton and never got any answers or chance.
A Special Forces soldier died on a failed mission? Really? What did his father think his son was doing? Selling transgender support t-shirts in Seattle?
Owens’ father, Bill, had learned only a short time before the ceremony that Trump was coming. Owens was sitting with his wife, Marie, and other family members in the solemn, living room-like space where the loved ones of the fallen assemble before they are taken to the flight line.
“I’m sorry, I don’t want to see him,’’ Owens recalled telling the chaplain who informed him that Trump was on his way from Washington. “I told them I don’t want to meet the President.”
Will there be an investigation?
Will there be an investigation?
Not only AN investigation, The military has three separate investigations underway of last month's Yemen raid
The only issue is that this father might not get the investigation he wanted, it looks like he wanted to find out if politics was involved in the decision to order the raid.
The investigations do not deal with the planning of the mission, the decision-making process involved, or whether the operation was ordered in haste.
In all fairness, military sends special operation units to do both green ops and black ops, nobody is going to tell you the reason of these operations.
My brother's unit had 8 people, in his last year's Marine Recon reunion, he found out the unit only had 4 people left (including himself) One thing helps the grief is to know that these people died doing what they loved to do (serve the country) That is how some people cope...
I feel very sorry for the dad, and he is a grieving father who is angry. Well, anger is a perfect reaction following a loved one's death. I think eventually he will accept his son's death but this will take a very long time.
Owens’ father, Bill, had learned only a short time before the ceremony that Trump was coming. Owens was sitting with his wife, Marie, and other family members in the solemn, living room-like space where the loved ones of the fallen assemble before they are taken to the flight line.
“I’m sorry, I don’t want to see him,’’ Owens recalled telling the chaplain who informed him that Trump was on his way from Washington. “I told them I don’t want to meet the President.”
Will there be an investigation?
He is entitled to nothing. The son was an adult. How many parents whose kids died on D-Day asked for an investigation?
Owens’ father, Bill, had learned only a short time before the ceremony that Trump was coming. Owens was sitting with his wife, Marie, and other family members in the solemn, living room-like space where the loved ones of the fallen assemble before they are taken to the flight line.
“I’m sorry, I don’t want to see him,’’ Owens recalled telling the chaplain who informed him that Trump was on his way from Washington. “I told them I don’t want to meet the President.”
The guy was a SEAL and he went on a mission. Soldiers die on missions, from all manner of causes: from lead, to crashes, to shrapnel, to friendly fire.
When you sign up for the most hazardous job in the world, and participate in one of the most hazardous tasks in the world, there is a large chance of death. I feel for the family, as a person who has lost close family to war, but the job is the job and the father needs to accept that without politicizing his son's job.
There will be an investigation same as Benghazi and other deaths by our military in Afghanistan. "They do dangerous work " is irrelevant. There were civilians including children killed yet trump claimed it a huge success and proceeded to blame the generals for the mistakes. The father didn't want this politicized he just wanted to be left alone.
Last edited by Goodnight; 03-01-2017 at 09:13 AM..
There will be an investigation same as Benghazi and other deaths by our military in Afghanistan. "They do dangerous work " is irrelevant. There were civilians including children killed yet trump claimed it a huge succession and proceeded to blame the generals for the mistakes. The father didn't want this politicized he just wanted to be left alone.
The father requested that Trump would not use his sons death for political purposes, and Trump responded by doing exactly that during the speech, even made a joke about him.
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