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Old 03-11-2017, 09:28 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Your rant may have had some validity if not for the fact Mr. Obama's race and skin color are a result of his birth. Whereas DT's Oompa Loompa skin and hair color result from cosmetics. If you cannot understand the difference continuing this conversation is pointless.
You are just rude and like to call people name.
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Old 03-11-2017, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Florida
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What makes this interesting is that Trump and Sessions ASKED him to stay on board, then they dumped him. So much for their word having any value.

If they break their word on something like this, how can they be trusted with anything else they say ?
The thing is that with this admin, they are so disorganized, you have to wonder--did they just forget they asked him to stay on? Then since they sent out the mass forced resignation request, they kind of had to include him. Trump doesn't remember half of what he says. Or did Bannon just tell Trump he had to go because he was born in India and not a real American?

No matter what the reason, it is obvious if Trump tells you something, you better get it on tape or in writing.
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Old 03-12-2017, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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What makes this interesting is that Trump and Sessions ASKED him to stay on board, then they dumped him. So much for their word having any value.

If they break their word on something like this, how can they be trusted with anything else they say ?
Of course they can't.
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Old 03-12-2017, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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This idiot needed to be fired....good riddance!

Once again, you simply shoot off your mouth to hear yourself talk. The man was extremely well respected by people in both parties. He prosecuted high profile cases such as the 9-11 terrorists, and other high profile criminals throughout his long tenure. This man you call an idiot did it in a non partisan manner and had a high success rate.

If you think he is an idiot and your leader is good, you truly do live in an upside down world. But we already knew that Trumpees think backwards of the rest of us. Here, read this, and tell me he is an idiot:

Preetinder Singh "Preet" Bharara[needs IPA] (born October 13, 1968) is an Indian-born American lawyer who served as U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York from 2009 to 2017. On March 11, 2017, he was fired—after refusing to resign—as a result of Attorney General Jeff Sessions' request for all remaining 49 US Attorneys appointed during President Obama's administration to resign.[2][3]
As U.S. Attorney, Bharara earned a reputation of a "crusader" prosecutor[4][5] who for seven years was one of "the nation's most aggressive and outspoken prosecutors of public corruption and Wall Street crime."[6] Under Bharara, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York prosecuted nearly 100 Wall Street executives for insider trading and other offenses.[7] He reached historic settlements and fines with the four largest banks in the United States,[8][9][10] and closed multibillion-dollar hedge funds for activities including insider trading.[11][12]
Under Bharara, federal prosecutors also public corruption investigations against Democratic and Republican, most notable securing convictions against the Speaker of the New York State Assembly, Sheldon Silver and the Majority Leader of State Senate, Dean Skelos.[6] One of Bharara's chief adversaries was Governor Andrew Cuomo, whom Bharara's office investigated.[13] Under Bharara, the U.S. Attorney's office was also known for its terrorism prosecutions and civil rights cases.[6] Bharara's office had international reach, pursuing defendants located in many countries outside the United States


He is gone for one reason, he was the man who went after Wall Street, and we all know Trump's cabinet is lined with people from Wall Street.

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Old 03-12-2017, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Once again, you simply shoot off your mouth with zero reasons or facts. The man was extremely well respected by people in both parties. He prosecuted high profile cases such as the 9-11 terrorists, and criminals throughout his long tenure. This man you call an idiot did it in a non partisan manner and had a high success rate.

If you think he is an idiot and your leader is good, you truly do live in an upside down world. But we already knew that Trumpees think backwards of the rest of us. Here, read this, and tell me he is an idiot:

Preetinder Singh "Preet" Bharara[needs IPA] (born October 13, 1968) is an Indian-born American lawyer who served as U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York from 2009 to 2017. On March 11, 2017, he was fired—after refusing to resign—as a result of Attorney General Jeff Sessions' request for all remaining 49 US Attorneys appointed during President Obama's administration to resign.[2][3]
As U.S. Attorney, Bharara earned a reputation of a "crusader" prosecutor[4][5] who for seven years was one of "the nation's most aggressive and outspoken prosecutors of public corruption and Wall Street crime."[6] Under Bharara, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York prosecuted nearly 100 Wall Street executives for insider trading and other offenses.[7] He reached historic settlements and fines with the four largest banks in the United States,[8][9][10] and closed multibillion-dollar hedge funds for activities including insider trading.[11][12]
Under Bharara, federal prosecutors also public corruption investigations against Democratic and Republican, most notable securing convictions against the Speaker of the New York State Assembly, Sheldon Silver and the Majority Leader of State Senate, Dean Skelos.[6] One of Bharara's chief adversaries was Governor Andrew Cuomo, whom Bharara's office investigated.[13] Under Bharara, the U.S. Attorney's office was also known for its terrorism prosecutions and civil rights cases.[6] Bharara's office had international reach, pursuing defendants located in many countries outside the United States


He is gone for one reason, he was the man who went after Wall Street, and we all know Trump's cabinet is lines with people from Wall Street.
Totally in agreement wrt how well-regarded he is, but there could be myriad reasons they wanted him out. Three ethics watchdog groups wrote to him last week asking him to look into trump's emoluments. He had also been previously barred from Russia because of work he did on their money laundering in NY. Finally, he was involved in the case against Fox News.
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Old 03-12-2017, 06:40 AM
 
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I am not a Trump supporter but, seriously, there are certain positions in the federal government where the individuals serve at the pleasure of the president. When the president, irrespective of party, asks for the resignation of the individual/s, the proper thing to do is to proceed with the request - not indulge in grandstanding.

Personally, I think Bharara is a top notch prosecutor and an asset to the Justice department but that does not take away from the right of the president to seek his resignation.

Yes, Bharara was asked by Trump to remain but for whatever reason he changed his mind - most likely because Sessions wanted to start with a clean slate. Presidents have asked for the resignations of US attorneys they inherited from a previous administration so this is really much ado about nothing.
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Old 03-12-2017, 06:41 AM
 
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Very sad way to deal with one of the most upstanding federal prosecutors in long time.
Very sad....... MY MOM LIKES MR. PREET ALSO... She said he has done alot in NYC area......


HE SHOULD SUE FOR HIS JOB BACK!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-12-2017, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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I am not a Trump supporter but, seriously, there are certain positions in the federal government where the individuals serve at the pleasure of the president. When the president, irrespective of party, asks for the resignation of the individual/s, the proper thing to do is to proceed with the request - not indulge in grandstanding.

Personally, I think Bharara is a top notch prosecutor and an asset to the Justice department but that does not take away from the right of the president to seek his resignation.

Yes, Bharara was asked by Trump to remain but for whatever reason he changed his mind - most likely because Sessions wanted to start with a clean slate. Presidents have asked for the resignations of US attorneys they inherited from a previous administration so this is really much ado about nothing.

I agree with about 90% of what you wrote, but there are a couple of things that bother me about this firing. First off was the promise both Trump and Sessions made in November and then breaking their word. Secondly, Trump promised , on the campaign trail, to hire the "Best and most professional people". There is no one better or more professional than this particular man, so why throw the baby out with the bath water ?

Someone got to Trump (Bannon?) and clued him in that Bharara would not discard his integrity or look the other way when it comes to things this administration would like to do.......most specifically, Wall Street manipulation and other illegal activities. They did not want someone honest on that team who might out them. Bharara also is no friend of Russia, so we know how that goes.
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Old 03-12-2017, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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They can ask him to resign if they don't like his tie. He's a political appointee. They don't need a reason. If you read the bazillion other threads on this subject, you would know that most presidents and their AG's say, "adios" to the previous administration's attorney appointees as soon as they take office. Then again, other administrations didn't have to wait so long for their AG to be confirmed:

Sessions - Feb 8 (Trump)
Eric Holder - January 28. (Obama)
John A-S-h-croft - Feb 1 (W)
Baird - N/A - initially was withdrawn (Clinton)
Thornburgh - N/A - Carried over from Reagan Administration (Bush Sr)
William French Smith - January 22. (Reagan)
Bell - January 25 (Carter)

When Bill Clinton became President, his eventual AG (Reno) asked all of the US attorneys to resign. One of them was Jeff Sessions.
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Old 03-12-2017, 08:01 AM
 
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I agree with about 90% of what you wrote, but there are a couple of things that bother me about this firing. First off was the promise both Trump and Sessions made in November and then breaking their word. Secondly, Trump promised , on the campaign trail, to hire the "Best and most professional people". There is no one better or more professional than this particular man, so why throw the baby out with the bath water ?

Someone got to Trump (Bannon?) and clued him in that Bharara would not discard his integrity or look the other way when it comes to things this administration would like to do.......most specifically, Wall Street manipulation and other illegal activities. They did not want someone honest on that team who might out them. Bharara also is no friend of Russia, so we know how that goes.
You hit the nail on the head, Preet just does not fit in with the new administration. He is just too competent and actually has morals. Yikes. Trump and Sessions want a Yes-man who is willing to look away from cases against Trump and his cronies. While they wanted him to stay on earlier times have changed now that investigations are happening too close to home. Sad but I hope this decision comes back to bite the administration in the *ass.
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