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For the 10th time, look under the surface not just face value. Trump is performing art of the deal. He's walking away from the table. I'm guessing when october rolls around and the premiums double or more insurers withdraw, the atmosphere will change some. For the time being, obamacare is still OBAMAcare. The law is still the law, and the democrats are getting exactly what they want.
Sorry but that's just crappy deal-making to let something fail because "it's not my fault it happened." A good leader doesn't skip over problems. Especially because he SHOULD be able to get his own dang party to rally. He doesn't NEED Dems to do anything much less a "deal." I don't know why anyone would get satisfaction out of seeing it fail. That's a really expensive "I told you so." I would love it if "Trumpcare," whatever that is, was the best health care system the world has ever seen... he and his people need to get on that.
tRump & the GOP wet the bed big time. All that bravado about repeal & replace of ObamaCare and they failed.. Bigly. Now with no Plan B, it's just sit back and try to sabotage the American people. We all know (knew) Republicans just don't get it when it comes to domestic issues. They just know how to war & whine.
Get ready. This is what a Republican lead nation is like. In less than 4 years Americans will vote to make the correction.
The HHS oversees a huge portion of the ACA. Who's heading the HHS? You think he will take this loss and do good by the law? He absolutely HATES the ACA. I highly doubt that he will do his job with diligence.
If Congress wants to really lower premiums/deductibles to make healthcare more affordable, they should introduce legislation for a public option run by the federal government to compete with private insurers. Since the government is non-profit and does not report to shareholders, all the premiums it collects from paying subscribers will be directly spent on healthcare. The free market will compete against this model and lower costs across the board.
Obamacare is a slow motion trainwreck. It was sold as "not a tax", 2500 savings per year, keep plan, keep doctor. After it passed, American lost their plans, their doctors, pay on average $5000 more per year, and thr SC ruled it is a tax.
I was right about Trump getting elected. Just watch come october when people's plans Are either canceling or doubling again.
Obamacare is a slow motion trainwreck. It was sold as "not a tax", 2500 savings per year, keep plan, keep doctor. After it passed, American lost their plans, their doctors, pay on average $5000 more per year, and thr SC ruled it is a tax.
I was right about Trump getting elected. Just watch come october when people's plans Are either canceling or doubling again.
Because that's what happens when you allow the free market to enter into the equation. Government cannot mandate what plans/doctors they utilized. The fact that Obama said that was a lie at the time to calm fears.
The ONLY way to keep the plans/doctors is to do a single payer system since it includes everyone and contracts with every single hospital and provider so everyone is in the same network of doctors. If you're a conservative, you'll immediately reject this idea, then that begs the question. If not single payer, then what?
Guess you didn't hear the part that Obamacare is going to blow up even if it is left alone.
guess you did not read the cbo and just posted what you heard on fox.....i suggest you parse it then come back and tell us all about how ACA will fail...
Obama promised a healthcare bill. He took office jan 20th 2009. The bill passed may 2010. Trump has been in office what 60 something days? Let's see how things are looking in October when premiums double again (or worse).
I keep asking this, and so far, no one has given me a coherent answer. Or any answer at all.
Trump campaigned for a year. In all that time, he never thought to get a group of wonks together to develop a bill that would be ready for hearings "on Day 1" as he promised? Instead, he chose to support Ryan's bill which was none of the things he promised - it isn't cheaper, it isn't better, it doesn't cover everyone, and the government doesn't pick up the slack for the folks who can't pay. Why on earth did he do that?
And any idiot could know that the Rs would be unable to agree on a plan, all they would have to do is listen to Boehner on why, in the 7 years following the ACA's passage, no R plan appeared. So why didn't Trump call for a working group of Rs and Ds to come up with something they could agree on? If he's such an independent breaker of molds, why didn't he use his strong-arm tactics to get congressional Rs off their respective asses and ask the Ds to participate - instead of trying to force reluctant Rs to vote for something they hated??
None of this is rocket science, it is Legislative Leadership 101.
It's no news that premiums increase every year. The thing is, by all rational analyses, those increases are less than they would be w/out the ACA.
Face it, Trump simply doesn't know how to get things done in this arena.
Because that's what happens when you allow the free market to enter into the equation. Government cannot mandate what plans/doctors they utilized. The fact that Obama said that was a lie at the time to calm fears.
The ONLY way to keep the plans/doctors is to do a single payer system since it includes everyone and contracts with every single hospital and provider so everyone is in the same network of doctors. If you're a conservative, you'll immediately reject this idea, then that begs the question. If not single payer, then what?
Look at all the communist/socialist countries in the world. They are all either 3rd world hellholes for the average citizen or in a freefall. Capitalism isn't perfect but it's the best option. Just look at north korea vs south korea or east germany vs west germany.
I refuse to believe the government should or is even capable of solving all our problems. Modern healthcare and insurance is a construct of free enterprise. Modern medical advancements and tech is thanks to the free market.
That's not to say that government has no purpose, but it's bounds should be limited to the constitution's enumerated powers.
I keep asking this, and so far, no one has given me a coherent answer. Or any answer at all.
Trump campaigned for a year. In all that time, he never thought to get a group of wonks together to develop a bill that would be ready for hearings "on Day 1" as he promised? Instead, he chose to support Ryan's bill which was none of the things he promised - it isn't cheaper, it isn't better, it doesn't cover everyone, and the government doesn't pick up the slack for the folks who can't pay. Why on earth did he do that?
And any idiot could know that the Rs would be unable to agree on a plan, all they would have to do is listen to Boehner on why, in the 7 years following the ACA's passage, no R plan appeared. So why didn't Trump call for a working group of Rs and Ds to come up with something they could agree on? If he's such an independent breaker of molds, why didn't he use his strong-arm tactics to get congressional Rs off their respective asses and ask the Ds to participate - instead of trying to force reluctant Rs to vote for something they hated??
None of this is rocket science, it is Legislative Leadership 101.
It's no news that premiums increase every year. The thing is, by all rational analyses, those increases are less than they would be w/out the ACA.
Face it, Trump simply doesn't know how to get things done in this arena.
I don't remember insurance premiums going up 100+% before obamacare. I don't remembwr $13,000 deductibles being standard either.
If you're asking me why Trump did something, it should be no surprise that you aren't getting an answer. We can only speculate. You think he is both hitler and a moron. I tend to take a more empirical approach. I figure if he was smart enough to get elected by himself, against the best candidates of both parties, against 24/7 negative press, against the sitting president Obama, there is probably some rhyme to his reason. Of course I could be wrong, but I've been right about him since july 2015.
Look at all the communist/socialist countries in the world. They are all either 3rd world hellholes for the average citizen or in a freefall. Capitalism isn't perfect but it's the best option. Just look at north korea vs south korea or east germany vs west germany.
I refuse to believe the government should or is even capable of solving all our problems. Modern healthcare and insurance is a construct of free enterprise. Modern medical advancements and tech is thanks to the free market.
That's not to say that government has no purpose, but it's bounds should be limited to the constitution's enumerated powers.
There is no east or west Germany anymore, there's just Germany.
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