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Old 07-30-2018, 09:50 AM
 
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The leftists go to is always, "Trump supporters flee the thread when presented with facts" (as if their ramblings are fact) or "you don't need to defend it" after presenting lies.

I guess that is the way they've been commanded to do it.
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Old 07-30-2018, 09:51 AM
 
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Are you suffering from Democratic Derangement Syndrome?
No, just pointing out the obvious since the zombies have no clue. The Democrats say the most insane things in public and their supporters eat it up like they are licking the car window while on their ride to the nut house.
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Old 07-30-2018, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Boston
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TDS ...get help, don't be losers...
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Old 07-30-2018, 10:21 AM
 
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How do you expect me to take seriously the line that liberalism's a mental disorder when the person who popularized the phrase (Michael Wiener Savage) is some crazy ranter who claims autism, depression, and PTSD aren't real mental problems but simply a sign of weakness? Honestly, prove to me that there is such a disorder - not from some fringe group, but the American Psychological Association, Royal College of Psychiatry, etc. or other professional body recognized by the National Academy of Sciences.

And last but not least, he's permanently banned from the UK, meaning he's not allowed to set foot on British soil. His ban comes from making hate speech against minorities and gays.

All this isn't exactly a credibility enhancer for him.
Well that is a perfect microcosm of how the left distorts/twists things into their warped view. Michael Savage is on the banned list with a bunch of actual terrorists because of his viewpoints. Just because he is not PC enough for the liberal kooks ( I will grant you he is bombastic), he is labeled a ____ist, _____phobe, etc.
They see nothing wrong with the likes of BLM & Antifa that engage in violence, riots, etc., yet attack peaceful groups like the Tea Party.
The kooks on the far left demonize law abiding citizens who are members of civil rights groups like the NRA as terrorists, yet want to call members of actual terror groups like MS-13, as having a spark of divinity.

But this is nothing new with modern liberals/leftists kooks. Remember when Obama & Co decided to change terms like terrorism into "man-made disaster", "The War on Terror" into "overseas contingency plan" etc.
The Ft Hood Islamic terror shooting was instead called "workplace violence".
Obama himself even wanted to minimize Islamic terrorism (though he resufed to call it out as such), but feebly attempting a comparative analogy to the Christian Crusades.
Aside from being apples & oranges, that happened over 1000 years ago vs. what is happening today, he failed to acknowledge that the "Crusades" by Christians were in response to Muslim aggression, not the other way around.
[Obama always seem to have a soft spot for Islam, yet derided America/Christianity on a regular basis.
Yet liberals couldn't understand why critics suspected him of being a Muslim]
Read older history books (not rubbish like Wiki) to see what really happened in the Crusades, as modern day leftist revision will totally warp reality into liberal ideology.

The bottom line is that just because someone does not knuckle under to liberal ideology under the guise of PC, does not mean they are any of the labels that leftist try to diminish them by.

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Old 07-30-2018, 10:30 AM
 
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LOL. Why does this remind me of a certain woman saying she could see Russia from where she was?

I stood very close to the Queen Mary once.
And if it was derelict and sinking you would know.....

Since AC was our stomping grounds since was 6 years old, I have seen the town in all the various phases - and Trump took our tax money and left it a barren desert.

Am I "seeing things" that all the Casinos went bust and we never got the money back we gave to Trump for road and bridge improvements? Am I "seeing things" that the State finally had to take over the entire city because of no revenues?

People ask what one knows of Trumps works....my partner was ripped off by him (not for much, just some materials)....his distributor was put out of business tho. My observations are 1st and 2nd hand, much better than what you have.....

But, hey, tell us why he doesn't have over 100 Billion, what anyone with 1/2 a brain would have in compounded money after getting his empire given to him in the mid-70's......????

My answer is he has no idea how to do anything. A fool. If you have a better excuse, be clear. Look at the record and use numbers.
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Old 07-30-2018, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Dr John Gartner is a psychologist, not a psychiatrist. There is no Dr John Gartner at Johns Hopkins. Gartner has a limited practice in Baltimore. Gartner is 59. He has not been practicing for 38 years.
He is a PHD.

He previously wrote a bio about Bill Clinton and concluded Clinton had a hypomanic personality disorder. According to the book ( reviews), Clinton displays boundless energy and charisma but is prone to impulsive appetites and lapses in judgment. Ya think?

Reportedly the book focuses on Clinton's relationship with his mother and grandmother and the genetics of his bio father, a traveling salesman and all that that implies, who died before his son was born.
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Old 07-30-2018, 11:03 AM
 
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From Dr. John Gartner, author and professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University for 28 years

Says that observed behavior is more reliable than interviews. Based on his public observations of Trump, says he has malignant narcissism, a personality described by Erich Fromm, who escaped the Nazis, and used that condition to explain the psychology of dictators

Narcissistic - grandiosity,
Paranoid - demonization of the press and "different" people, conspiracy theories, feels he's constantly under attack . . . .
The good doctor is obviously crazy himself. Trump is constantly under attack. He is the target of conspiracies. These are open and obvious facts that only someone with no connection to reality could overlook. He's not paranoid if they're really out to get him -- and they are!!


This is just another example of the cliche that psychiatrists become psychiatrists inhopes of curing their own insanity.
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Old 07-30-2018, 11:14 AM
 
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From Dr. John Gartner, author and professor of psychiatry at Johns Hopkins University for 28 years

Says that observed behavior is more reliable than interviews. Based on his public observations of Trump, says he has malignant narcissism, a personality described by Erich Fromm, who escaped the Nazis, and used that condition to explain the psychology of dictators

Narcissistic - grandiosity,
Paranoid - demonization of the press and "different" people, conspiracy theories, feels he's constantly under attack antisocial personality, and
Antisocial Personality- violates norms and laws, predatory personality, doesn't care about the consequences of their acts for others.
Sadistic - enjoys hurting other people, like a bully.

They actually become worse, not better, over time. This explains why Trump didn't "pivot" from a badly behaved candidate to a well-behaved president.

Trump's in cognitive decline, possibly pre-dementia: In 1980s, Trump was a polished speaker, higher level of vocabulary, can finish sentences. Now he speaks as a juvenile level of vocabulary. . He tells both conscious and unconscious lies.

Video's 14 min long, but full of info about him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfnV4B7Fk7Y



No surprise here, on to the next thread!
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Old 07-30-2018, 11:30 AM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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A word or two about my sources.

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https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/john-d-gartner-baltimore-md/60650
For over 35 years I have treated Bipolar Disorder and Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) and (for 28 of those years) taught my methods to psychiatric residents at Johns Hopkins Medical School.
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Originally Posted by usnews.com
Not a "liberal" news site.
https://www.usnews.com/news/the-repo...-him-dangerous
John D. Gartner, a practicing psychotherapist who taught psychiatric residents at Johns Hopkins University Medical School, minces as few words as the president in his professional assessment of Trump.

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"Donald Trump is dangerously mentally ill and temperamentally incapable of being president," says Gartner, author of "In Search of Bill Clinton: A Psychological Biography." Trump, Gartner says, has "malignant narcissism," which is different from narcissistic personality disorder and which is incurable.
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http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/01/...-trump/However, John D. Gartner, a registered psychotherapist from the renowned Johns Hopkins University Medical School seems to think Trump may, in fact, be the one with the problem. Gartner, who teaches psychiatric residents at Hopkins, decided to break the ethical code known as the “Goldwater Rule” in order to warn the American public about the dangerousness of our new commander-in-chief’s mental state.
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Originally Posted by amazon.com book description of "In Search of Bill Clinton"

William Jefferson Clinton, the 42nd President of the United States is undoubtedly the greatest American enigma of our age -- a dark horse that captured the White House, fell from grace and was resurrected as an elder statesman whose popularity rises and falls based on the day’s sound bytes. John Gartner's In Search of Bill Clinton unravels the mystery at the heart of Clinton’s complex nature and tells the story we all thought we knew, from the fresh viewpoint of a psychologist, as he questions the well-crafted Clinton life story. Travelling to Arkansas and around the world, Gartner uncovers long-held secrets about Clinton's wild and seductive mother, Virginia Kelley, the truth surrounding Clinton’s birth, and how Kelley's character set the tone for Clinton's relationship with Monica Lewinsky. He considers Clinton's two fathers as the root of his self-destructive nature and looks afresh at Sec. of State Hillary Clinton to see in her the figure of Edith Cassidy, Clinton's stern grandmother. Gartner then shows a Clinton reborn from diplomatic triumphs and humanitarianism across the globe. John Gartner’s exhaustive journey provides the richest portrait of Clinton yet, a man who is one of our national obsessions. In Search of Bill Clinton is a surprising and compelling book about a man we all thought we knew.
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Old 07-30-2018, 11:31 AM
 
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Leftists idea of "experts" is someone like Maxi Waters. LMAO

Just like a true leftists you tell us not to defend our position though in this case no defense is needed . We won't be silenced by the left no matter how hard they try.
Not sure where you got that. My proposal was that you perform the following Google search, reach a few dozen analyses on Trump's mental state (there are hundreds), throw out the extreme one on both ends, and draw a conclusion based on that - not on one specific assessment.

When you did that, what did you conclude?

https://www.google.com/search?safe=a....0.klCnM2p--Xs
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