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Everyone else was forced to participate by being a captive audience of sorts.
If the students didn't want to listen to Pence they could've simply not attended and picked up their diplomas afterwards, rather than making a spectacle of the ceremonies for everyone involved.
They could have. They chose to avail themselves of their long standing right of protest to bring attention to their cause.
As pointed out before.....yes there were people inconvenienced here also.
You are arguing that these people should have listened quietly to what Pence had to say but it was wrong for others to be subjected to their view point.
You are arguing that these people should have listened quietly to what Pence had to say but it was wrong for others to be subjected to their view point.
What you miss is this; "just because you can does not mean that you should". What a mature person at an event that's meant to celebrate the accomplishments of a group as a whole does is respectfully go through the event and then when away from the celebration continue on with their opinions if they so wish.
Should people now go to weddings/funerals/baby showers and just create a scene if they don't like someone who's there?
If not, why not?
The disruptions in town hall meetings were not by just those who wanted to disrupt the meetings. Some wanted to hear what the representative had to say.
What you miss is this; "just because you can does not mean that you should". What a mature person at an event that's meant to celebrate the accomplishments of a group as a whole does is respectfully go through the event and then when away from the celebration continue on with their opinions if they so wish.
Should people now go to weddings/funerals/baby showers and just create a scene if they don't like someone who's there?
If not, why not?
I agree, doing this just seems like a rational adult like thing to do. Apparently being rational and an adult is tough for some now, freedom of speech and the need to get their point across is all that matters.... seems a little self centered to me.
What you miss is this; "just because you can does not mean that you should". What a mature person at an event that's meant to celebrate the accomplishments of a group as a whole does is respectfully go through the event and then when away from the celebration continue on with their opinions if they so wish.
Should people now go to weddings/funerals/baby showers and just create a scene if they don't like someone who's there?
If not, why not?
If someone at the wedding demeans another there is likely going to be a spat. Pence would have lost re-election so the rejection of him had started long before this.
What you miss is this; "just because you can does not mean that you should". What a mature person at an event that's meant to celebrate the accomplishments of a group as a whole does is respectfully go through the event and then when away from the celebration continue on with their opinions if they so wish.
Should people now go to weddings/funerals/baby showers and just create a scene if they don't like someone who's there?
If not, why not?
This was an event for each of the students. Quietly walking out on your own commencement is one hell of a lot different than walking out on someone's wedding or funeral
They could have. They chose to avail themselves of their long standing right of protest to bring attention to their cause.
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Their 'cause'. lol.
I can't say that a newly-minted college grad has a cause that's worth listening to yet.
Here's what this is all about, it's the fun exercise of power. More recently, college students are able to produce a form of political power at no cost to themselves. It's an exciting thing for them with no observable downside risk.
Coming from an era when college was extraordinarily apolitical, it's an interesting thing to watch.
One argument that you can make, which harkens to cliodynamics, is that there's currently an elite oversupply (in this case, college grads) and that you naturally get an uproar when that happens. The supply and demand of educated people is out of whack, so something has to give. Revolutionary Russia is a canonical case of this.
Every one of the ND idiots denied fellow students the right to their graduation tickets. Had they just not shown up to begin with, more tickets for those who were there.
That's actually what they should have done; forfeit their tickets so those who are more emotionally and intellectually mature could benefit.
You are arguing that these people should have listened quietly to what Pence had to say but it was wrong for others to be subjected to their view point.
What I am arguing is that your right to protest does not give you the right to force others to listen to what you're saying.
What I'm arguing is that the students who walked out were disrespectful little snots.
And being a disrespectful little snot is not a very effective way to get your point across, or to persuade others to be sympathetic to your point of view.
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