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Old 06-26-2017, 06:12 PM
 
Location: ATX/Houston
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Alabama premiums have went up over 220%+ since 2010....

Trumps fault?
Medicaid expansion and Bentley's $3 billion blunder | AL.com

It also doesn't help that many Republican governors and legislators never funded the high risk pools as intended by the law to smooth out the rise in cost. ACA and large pieces of legislation don't work as intended when one side actively sabotages it.

 
Old 06-26-2017, 06:13 PM
 
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Not my candidate....but agree...
Can Trump already go back on working class in 7-8 months? Well.... he's going for that record.
 
Old 06-26-2017, 06:14 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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23 million is a big number of Americans, but at least Rubio admits that is the damage the bill will cause.

Marco Rubio: 23 Million Set to Lose Insurance Under AHCA "Small Percentage" of Population | Miami New Times

Give Marco Rubio this: His mathematics are sound. The U.S. population is about 321 million people, which means the 23 million human beings set to lose access to basic health insurance under the GOP's Obamacare repeal plan are, indeed, only about 7 percent of all Americans.

So — in terms of pure numbers — Rubio was right on when he defended the Republican plan by noting that just "a small percentage of the overall population" would be affected by his party's mad rush to dismantle Obama's health-care plan
How many lost there insurance under Obamacare? Oh, yes ...they could sign up for the worthless "insurance" under the ACA. But they LOST their insurance. They were forced into something they didn't want, and it turned out, they couldn't afford it.
 
Old 06-26-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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Medicaid expansion and Bentley's $3 billion blunder | AL.com

It also doesn't help that many Republican governors and legislators never funded the high risk pools as intended by the law to smooth out the rise in cost. ACA and large pieces of legislation don't work as intended when one side actively sabotages it.

AL.COM......HAhhahahaaa.....

Either way....the US GOV would fund it for the first few years, then it was up to the states...not a blunder, but a smart move....when the US GOV stopped funding it....who paid?

Have you ever looked into the states that did expand? How are they doing?
 
Old 06-26-2017, 06:47 PM
 
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Can Trump already go back on working class in 7-8 months? Well.... he's going for that record.
Again, lets see....that's what obama promised....it took how long to implement everything in the current ACA.....are you willing to give trump at least that long....hell, obama stopped implementation of stuff due to elections....is everything 100% implemented?
 
Old 06-26-2017, 06:48 PM
 
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How many lost there insurance under Obamacare? Oh, yes ...they could sign up for the worthless "insurance" under the ACA. But they LOST their insurance. They were forced into something they didn't want, and it turned out, they couldn't afford it.
I don't know, how many did lose their healthcare?

Everyone is going to get sick and everyone is at risk for catastrophic injury or illness. ACA did end up spreading the costs around, albeit more so than intended. That's what happens when the GOP purposely doesn't fund high risk pools as the legislation intended.

Just remember, the GOP had an opportunity to make the ACA better, but they sabotaged it. Just remember, this is the best thing the GOP could come up with after 7 years of whining.
 
Old 06-26-2017, 06:51 PM
 
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I don't know, how many did lose their healthcare?
They were supposed to gain...

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Everyone is going to get sick and everyone is at risk for catastrophic injury or illness. ACA did end up spreading the costs around, albeit more so than intended. That's what happens when the GOP purposely doesn't fund high risk pools as the legislation intended.
It was not supposed to....

Show me some links to back up the bold....

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Just remember, the GOP had an opportunity to make the ACA better, but they sabotaged it. Just remember, this is the best thing the GOP could come up with after 7 years of whining.
Not a single repub voted for it....do you remember that?

The 7 years....agreed....
 
Old 06-26-2017, 06:54 PM
 
Location: ATX/Houston
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Again, lets see....that's what obama promised....it took how long to implement everything in the current ACA.....are you willing to give trump at least that long....hell, obama stopped implementation of stuff due to elections....is everything 100% implemented?
ACA asked states to go along with the legislation in order to make it work properly, and the GOP went out of their way to not implement ACA and were part of the cause of the more severe premium hikes.

With this new bill, it's the opposite to where we are going to the healthcare system we had before that didn't ask states to do much. We know how that works already since we've had it for decades and saw that sickness and age are ballooning costs. Meanwhile, we still got a medicare system that is going to require tax increases to fulfill. So no, I'm not willing to give Trump that long since we don't have time after 7 years of wasted time and no real solutions to be seen from either side.

The GOP had 7 years to prepare for this time and they never had anything past whining about the ACA.
 
Old 06-26-2017, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Nobody is losing healthcare. Some people will just choose not to buy it . Has always been this way.
But isn't it against the Constitution or something to force somebody to go out and get like a second job so they can't afford it?
 
Old 06-26-2017, 07:01 PM
 
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They were supposed to gain...
Reality is different.

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It was not supposed to....
Because Medicaid wasn't expanded as intended by the legislation and high risk corridors weren't funded as intended.

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Show me some links to back up the bold....
I meant high risk corridors.

With billions at stake, a federal judge just nullified the GOP's most cynical attack on Obamacare - LA Times

http://www.modernhealthcare.com/arti...NEWS/161129937

Republicans' fingerprints are all over Obamacare premium increases - Baltimore Sun

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Not a single repub voted for it....do you remember that?
I do. And after 7 years of GOP whining..... they do THE SAME EXACT THING.
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