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What is discrimination? It is choosing based on criteria. It is OK to discriminate. In the case of keeping confused dysphoric people out of combat, it is the correct and rational choice. Discrimination can be very good in many cases. It has become a pejorative due to misuse. Rational discrimination should be encouraged and protected. In fact, it is a complement to describe some as "discriminating". He was a very discriminating buyer. Meaning: A careful and thoughtful and rational person giving consideration and judgment to what he is buying. We've gone overboard on the discrimination thing. We need to bring some of it back.
Which is exactly what Trump just did. And there is not another politician alive who would just come out and say the obvious truth. He is an idiot in many ways, but sometimes he isn't. But at least he's got the spheres to say what needs to be said, even in the face of SJW fire and brimstone.
You don't get why it's a problem, you'll never get why it's a problem. You can not seem to grasp that the military is not like the civilian world and can not be like the civilian world. You don't understand the military mentality, you can't because it is totally alien to your way of thinking. Military members think in terms of responsibilities and sacrifice, you think in terms of rights.
Many who havent served have trouble grasping that concept.
didn't I answer that question already?
I said, two wrongs don't make one right. Both need to go
No tax payers should be forced to pay for somebody's viagra. that is ridiculous.
You didn't simply say that taxpayers shouldn't pay for either one, this is what you said:
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I never said they should be fired. If they don't need to take meds on regular basis, they can stay. Once they decided to make that transition while serving in the military, they are no longer compatible with military service, they should be processed out.
So...should soldiers be kicked out of military service if they take erectile dysfunction drugs on a regular basis too?
So...should soldiers be kicked out of military service if they take erectile dysfunction drugs on a regular basis too?
If they need viagra in order to function in the military. Yes, they should be kicked out.
Do you know anybody who need viagra on regular basis in order to be combat ready? lol I'd give them some Copenhagen® Smokeless Tobacco instead. =)
For your information, a medical retirement is issued when a medical condition is severe enough to interfere with the proper performance of your military duties. If said soldier needs to take viagra on regular basis in order to perform military duties, Yes, he should be processed out.
All right, if we are talking about the superior "fulfilling their duty"....are they fulfilling their duty by being able to lead their troops, do their troops believe in them? When things are cold and miserable, will they believe what their leader tells them, do what they are told to do, or will they want to give up, go home ANYWHERE to a comfortable bed? Will they continue to fight or will a surrender seem like a better option to them? What motivates them to go on?
The troops need to believe in their leaders. Their leaders need to be able to motivate them to do what has to be done. Will an 18-19 year old follow if their leader seems confused (from their viewpoint) about what they are?
Leave the other nations out of it. This is the US, this is our politics, this is our society. It is not another country, it is here, it is now, and the US goes where other countries don't. This is not "that country".
If someone who happened to be transgendered and served for 34 years.....I guess "they" did follow and this is a non issue?
........So...should soldiers be kicked out of military service if they take erectile dysfunction drugs on a regular basis too?
Rather reminds me, a decade ago, when we were talking about prerequisites for police snipers and one of them was that they had to be non smokers. That got a rise out of all the smokers in the room.
A thing or two on that, though. I made the recommendation based on how war sniper teams would stop bathing a few days before going out in the field so there weren't any scents to give them away. I saw the same disadvantage with someone who used tobacco.
Another observation about this condition and this job was that one might have to remain in place for hours in surveillance and there really wasn't any room for someone to take a smoke break.
SO-o, for the item in question, what are we thinking? Someone we will always have at a desk job, working 0730-1700, duty every 5 days................or someone who can be deployed?
There are thousands and thousands of transgenders who serve with great honor to protect our country. If you agree with Trump and just want to discharge them, how about you replace them. This is just insanity. He just tweets this major change in policy without any regard to those who serve or their families. It's like he gets a thought in his head and just tweets it out at 3 am without any substance behind it. None of the major players even knew about this. Spicer tried hard to clean up Trump's messes but who can really do that when it's ever changing. I wonder how long Sarah will last.
If someone who happened to be transgendered and served for 34 years.....I guess "they" did follow and this is a non issue?
But the question is were they openly transgendered for those 34 years? Did their troops know?
If that answer is "no", then his basis for being TG & serving for 34 years operates in that sphere and not in the current one about being out in the open of being TG. His example, in a "no" sphere, has no relativity to the current issue.
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