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View Poll Results: Did Trump and company collude with an enemy of the USA to win the presidency?
Yes 213 59.83%
No 143 40.17%
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Old 07-16-2017, 08:52 PM
 
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#1 Meeting a Russian person is not the same as meeting the Russian government for purposes of conclusion.
the email exchange clearly shows that trump jr was under the impression he'd be receiving official russian documents from russian officials.

 
Old 07-16-2017, 09:07 PM
 
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the email exchange clearly shows that trump jr was under the impression he'd be receiving official russian documents from russian officials.
And someone in the meeting saw documents, in a plastic folder, provided by the Russian lawyer.

https://apnews.com/dceed1008d8f45afb314aca65797762a
 
Old 07-16-2017, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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I tried. Voted 3rd party in a state where it actually might have made a difference. Sigh. People defaulted back to that R, especially after Hatch said something.
The stats won't work for third party. It always benefits the right when there is low voter turnout out. .... This election was tough. ****** or seasoned pol.
 
Old 07-16-2017, 09:51 PM
 
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Who ignored the clintons? How many investigations proved nothing about nothing each and every time....with republicans in charge of them all! Such short memories people.
You are ignoring the fact that regardless of people being able to skate by in investigations most people have gut instincts as well as the ability to smell trash.

The Clintons are enough to set off anyones gut instincts and the stench associated with them is the pure aroma of trash.
 
Old 07-16-2017, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Default Who pays?

I guess Trump never picks up a check:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...ttorney-240592

RNC chair: 'I don't even know' if it's legal for RNC to pay Trump's legal fees - CNNPolitics.com

https://latest.com/2017/07/trump-tea...-money-report/
 
Old 07-16-2017, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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I can assure you that the Clinton's were never ignored. They were on TV all the time .scandal after scandal all ru by the GOP. Matter of fact Ken Starr is enjoying the fruits of his labor as he is mired in his own sex scandal.
 
Old 07-16-2017, 10:00 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Let the RNC Pick up the tab, I LOVE IT THAT THE RETHUGLICANS are paying for THE NUT-JOB they supported! All the less money they will have for the mid-term elections-2018, lol!
 
Old 07-16-2017, 10:05 PM
 
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The stats won't work for third party. It always benefits the right when there is low voter turnout out. .... This election was tough. ****** or seasoned pol.
I was meaning that McMullin could have potentially taken the electoral votes away from Trump for this state at least. It was really close for a while according to the polls (I know, polls!). I figured that would have been beneficial for that reason, and was the one state where it was actually a solid possibility. I know Johnson had a vague possibility too, but not as close.
 
Old 07-16-2017, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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Only chance Clinton had was to persuade Republicans to jump to her side out of love for country over party. That aside, there were no good alternatives . The focus should have been ANYONE BUT TRUMP.
 
Old 07-16-2017, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Florida
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the email exchange clearly shows that trump jr was under the impression he'd be receiving official russian documents from russian officials.
He did meet a person connected to the Russian government. Anyone who doubts that is just being naive--needs the dots connected for them. Nobody advocates for the Russian government in the US without Putin knowing about it.

Though, someone did state today that Little Donny is too stupid to actually collude with someone, he was just going for dirt, the way the Trumps always do. They have no qualms about playing dirty or cheating if it gets them what they want. They colluded out of ignorance (not Manafort--the Trumps). Those bozos sort of backed into the collusion. Unfortunately, ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

"...Veselnitskaya is a Russian lawyer, who, like many involved in the Trump and Russia saga, isn't directly employed by the Russian government but has a number of deeper government ties. The Russian government often operates by using not only its own employees but those with informal or personal relationships to its key leaders..."

Lawyer Who Met With Donald Trump Jr., Natalia Veselnitskaya, Has Ties To Russian Government, Putin : NPR
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