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Old 07-14-2017, 07:15 PM
 
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian...tor-1500063809

We can now confirm the Russian lawyer at the meeting was in fact working with the top Prosecutor of Russia, personally handpicked by Putin.

Trump of course claimed she had no ties to the Kremlin, as did Trump supporters. More lies.

 
Old 07-14-2017, 07:17 PM
 
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Fine, investigate her too (not instead, also) if there's proof. It's just being used a lot to deflect from the Trump thing.
Yeah I get the deflection issue and it's a valid point. But the whole issue of the Russian involvement is that they allegedly hacked the Clinton emails. Someone did. They didn't hack the election or change votes. Every time that's brought up, the left either ignores it or screams "deflection!"

I think the left would have a lot more credibility if they admitted Hillary wasn't the angelic victim here. If she didn't pull all the crap she did, she might be president.

Bottom line is we had two terrible candidates.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Very good analysis of what Hannity failed to ask Jr during an interview


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.50faac9d3169

This to me is a clear example why Trump supporters see an alternate universe.

Instead of embracing news sources from multiple angles and forcing themselves to think, they focus on just news that is a reinforcement of their views.
That's why you can never get a straight answer from them when you ask for a source to back up their claims. They know what they listen to is BS, and they are too ashamed to tell anyone.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 07:21 PM
 
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The constant Parkinsons accusations were false. The propaganda and photos saying she cannot walk up/down stairs without assistance or without tripping.
So everything was a false accusation? She did nothing wrong?
 
Old 07-14-2017, 07:23 PM
 
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What the **** are you even saying? You people are ****ing weird, can't even keep context of anything. The DNC couldn't use it then because they knew this was nothing and thought they had something bigger. Since everything else failed, it's desperation time.
One wonders: how do you have such intimate access to the information surrounding this investigation? Do you work for the FBI?
 
Old 07-14-2017, 07:26 PM
 
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Yeah I get the deflection issue and it's a valid point. But the whole issue of the Russian involvement is that they allegedly hacked the Clinton emails. Someone did. They didn't hack the election or change votes. Every time that's brought up, the left either ignores it or screams "deflection!"

I think the left would have a lot more credibility if they admitted Hillary wasn't the angelic victim here. If she didn't pull all the crap she did, she might be president.

Bottom line is we had two terrible candidates.
It's not my understanding that the whole of it was just supposed to be her emails. We don't know the whole of whatever was going down. I'm in the "There's a lot of weird stuff involving Russians surrounding the Trump campaign. I wonder what this investigation will find." camp. I didn't vote for either of them.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 07:31 PM
 
Location: FL
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That's why you can never get a straight answer from them when you ask for a source to back up their claims. They know what they listen to is BS, and they are too ashamed to tell anyone.
What is even sadder is that is where Trump gets his information from also.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 07:55 PM
 
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Don't look bnow, but Clinton is not involved in this thread, and never was, nor was Obama.

This constant diversion, deflecton, trying to change the subject, and looking for a worse example is not working. Can't you defend Trump without using a different subject...?
Obama sure as hell is involved. He allowed "special entry" to this Russian lawyer with the intention of trolling Trump.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 07:58 PM
 
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The source of this is a tweet

According to a tweet by former Massachusetts Trump campaign official James Brower and first reported by independent journalist and author Jack Posobiec, former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort's phone was tapped by former Attorney General Loretta Lynch during the now infamous meeting with Russian lawyer



Scoop: Manaforts phone was illegally bugged during meeting with Russian Lawyer, confirmed by multiple sources. Lynch ordered it.
3:28 PM - 14 Jul 2017


cite: Report: Lynch Tapped Manafort's Phone During Trump Jr. Meeting With Russian Lawyer | Zero Hedge


Comment: This would entail a FISA against Manafort and would not have been illegal.

This has been on the street for 8 hours now and MSM isn't picking it up as it is unsubstantiated tweet rumour for now.
You think MSM is going to report against their golden good? Lol ok.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 08:04 PM
 
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This story is falling apart quicker than HRCs hopes of becoming president on election night.

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