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View Poll Results: Did Trump and company collude with an enemy of the USA to win the presidency?
Yes 213 59.83%
No 143 40.17%
Voters: 356. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-14-2017, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by GHOSTRIDER AZ View Post
Not a lot there and of conclusive except for the Writer being bias and not objective.


Every Agency and Investigation has state no Collusion. However the Clintons are guilty of Play to for the Nuclear Materials and the Clinton speech.
What Jr did may not be illegal but it sure seems to fit the definition of collusion.


The Pay to play and Uranium has been discussed ad nauseam, there is nothing there. If they had a case you can believe that the GOP would have opened an investigation, they didn't.

 
Old 07-14-2017, 03:12 PM
 
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What Jr did may not be illegal but it sure seems to fit the definition of collusion.


The Pay to play and Uranium has been discussed ad nauseam, there is nothing there. If they had a case you can believe that the GOP would have opened an investigation, they didn't.
See how you turn and drop chaff when HRC is involved.


You guys cannot help yourselves I know. ADD????
 
Old 07-14-2017, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Trump Jr.-


From the article- Speaking with CNN's Jake Tapper in July, Trump Jr. called claims of Russian meddling "disgusting" when he was asked about comments by Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook that leaked DNC emails were part of a Russian effort to help Trump.

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"Well it just goes to show you their exact moral compass. I mean, they will say anything to be able to win this. I mean, this is time and time again, lie after lie," Trump Jr. said.
He added, "It's disgusting. It's so phony."


Donald Trump Jr. repeatedly dismissed and mocked claims of Russia connection in 2016 - CNNPolitics.com

You didn't believe him? Really? I mean he can't be the one lying- it's the other guys..

Man these folks are garbage can quality.. How anyone in their right mind can have any faith in this.. this.. crap is a lunatic.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Originally Posted by GHOSTRIDER AZ View Post
See how you turn and drop chaff when HRC is involved.


You guys cannot help yourselves I know. ADD????
Well hotshot- where was the investigation? Were they too busy with Benghazi?

Newsflash- more conjured up make believe nonsense from the alt right.

That is what I think they really call.. A 'Nothing Burger'.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 03:23 PM
 
Location: FL
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Fox News didn't allow a Russian operative to stay in the US to lobby Congress and the State Department to repeal the Magnitsky Act on behalf of Russia and Putin. Loretta Lynch and the Obama DOJ did that, even after Congressional Staff and the State Department lodged complaints about her doing so.
Hannity did forget to mention that the meeting was with a Russian operative, didn't he?
 
Old 07-14-2017, 03:24 PM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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I notice there are two factions steadily forming at Fox News. The faction of Chris Wallace, Shepard Smith, and the real journalists who realize that, despite their news organization's cultural tilt to the right, there is still such a thing as fact and fiction. Then there is the Hannity/Fox and Friends contingent, who are serving as state propagandists for the Administration with no regard for fact.

Its an interesting split.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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But, but, but CLINTON!


Never mind all Kushner's lies and memory lapses. And Mike Flynn. And Jeff Sessions. And lil Donnie, Jr.
Here's the thing that get's me with all this forgetfulness.

They are lying and covering things up only to reveal truth when caught, and play the forget card, thus are liars and shouldn't have security clearances or be in positions of leadership for the country.

OR

They are ridiculously incompetent, forgetful and shouldn't have security clearances or be in positions of leadership for the country.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 03:47 PM
 
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What documents? The Russian lawyer operative herself admitted on NBC that the meeting was just another lobbying attempt on behalf of Russia and Putin to repeal the Magnitsky Act.
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why 'not really'? did you even take a look at the article?

it makes a very good case for why it would be patently ridiculous to claim trump jr. broke any laws here.
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Originally Posted by GHOSTRIDER AZ View Post
The Email was posted on line and the actually meeting did not last foe 15 minutes and there was not a follow up meeting.

The Russian Layer in question had no ties to the Russian Government at all.

Your Hate toward the Trumps is beyond. Get over Trump won!!!!!!
The delusion/denail/naivete of Trump's personality cultists is truly unbelievable.

Hardly an ideological ally of mine, the National Review manages to turn a critical eye on the Trump/Russia connection: Donald Trump & Russia --

If you continue to think there is nothing there, then you are either ignorant or delusional.

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All hell broke loose this week, no one knew her name for a year and a half until this was exposed. Her lobbying effort was one of the best kept secrets. She was granted a visa parole for valid reasons, why she was still here in June no one knows but she is not alone in that department.

This is all a deflection from the issue at hand which are some memory lapses by the attendees, Jr forgot about the meeting until now and also forgot about some of the attendees. Kushner once again lied on his disclosure form, he should have his security clearance pulled.

The remainder I will leave for Mueller to figure out but right now it sure looks like they are hiding something.
The issue at hand is not mere memory lapse & failed disclosure. It is an attempt by Trump and his close associates to collaborate with Russian efforts to influence the US Presidential election.

It is worth noting that the Mueller investigation is tight-lipped and proceeding behind closed doors. I think orange jumpsuits are in the future.

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Originally Posted by GHOSTRIDER AZ View Post
Not a lot there and of conclusive except for the Writer being bias and not objective.
Every Agency and Investigation has state no Collusion. However the Clintons are guilty of Play to for the Nuclear Materials and the Clinton speech.
You need to get out more.
 
Old 07-14-2017, 04:01 PM
 
Location: FL
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White House shakes up legal team as probe gathers steam

Unlike Kasowitz and two other outside defense lawyers representing the president, Jay Sekulow and John Dowd, Cobb will be joining the White House staff. But he won’t be reporting to Don McGahn, the White House counsel. Instead, he will serve as “special counsel” to Trump himself, making him the point man in the ongoing struggle to persuade the president not to tweet about matters that could complicate his legal problems in the Russia probe.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-hou...191810956.html
 
Old 07-14-2017, 04:02 PM
 
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What do ya know - another C-D poll splitting basically down Trump supporter non-supporter lines.

Right in alignment with approval ratings, ~35% - 40%.


Maybe the C-D politics forum isn't as conservative as it seems from reading it.
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