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Originally Posted by animalcrazy
So here we go with empty rhetoric again. I swear every Trump supporter I've tried to have an intelligent conversation with ends the same way. Why do emotional thinkers often resort to troll rhetoric? This is not high school. Talk to me in bottom line facts. (Yes I know very well about the hot bed of corruption. My father in law was in deep in his day) The parallels between Trump's sketchy business dealings, lies, and the company he keeps has me disturbed. You can ass/u/me and toss ignorant comments all day, but that doesn't get to an intelligent bottom line conversation. Well, if that's all you're capable of, then I will wish you a good day and continue on my dead end quest to have an intelligent fact based conversation with a real Trump supporter that doesn't think in terms of emotional rhetoric.
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Some people who voted for Trump were not not hard core supporters. They simply chose him because they saw him as the "less worse" alternative to Hillary Clinton. Most of those people are pretty rational. I personally think the best thing we can do is just give most of them time to see Trump for what he is. They will convince themselves ultimately he is not a fit President and I believe most will not vote for him a second time. The democrats simply need to nominate a credible candidate who cannot be accused of some sort of corruption. I don't worry so much about this first group.
Its the hard core supporters I fear the most. Pollsters tell me they comprise about 25% or one quarter of all the people who voted in the last election. They are a sad group. Its among this group that the phrase "MSM' or mainstream media originates. They believe things like:
1. The media has invented scandals to try to destroy Trump.
2. Trump is either the greatest or one of the greatest men to ever be President.
3. There is a conspiracy of gays, feminists, and blacks out to destroy America and the values it is supposed to stand for.
4. News sources other than Breibart, the Drudge Report and other right wing websites contain the only accurate news in the country. Even Fox News is untrustworthy.
5. The only discrimination that exists in America is against white people.
6. The entire western word is under assault from Muslims.
7. The government is constantly trying to find ways to take away our right to bear firearms.
All of these reasons are founded upon emotion rather than facts. People committed to such a world view cannot have a rational discussion about issues. When facts are presented, they are inevitably declared to be "fake news" or irrelevant.
Its sad that so many people like this exist. It is a sad reality of life in America in 2017.