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Old 07-19-2017, 01:25 PM
 
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Would have been a better statement to invite all Senators.
Yep.

Trump keeps forgetting that he's the President of everyone not just his followers.

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Old 07-19-2017, 01:41 PM
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One has to wonder why the news stations and the Democrats and the un-supporting Republicans have lost their minds. President gave a factual accounting of the effects of Obamacare. It will destroy our nation if it is not done away with is the verdict. It wasn't just his opinion, he gave chapter and verse and the reality is it will take more than the entire country is worth.

I go from channel to channel and the talking points I heard were plain crazy. This person doesn't like it, another group doesn't like it, still more groups don't like what he said. Why not ask this question? "What do you have against America being a free country?" If you don't get on board, that is what will happen. America will cease to be. People need to take care of their own health care and insurance.

Obama's goal always seemed to be to turn America into a communist country and by a lack of co-operation with the elected president you are helping him accomplish it. IT IS TIME TO STOP IT!
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Old 07-19-2017, 02:12 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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What I'm going to say is not coming from a liberal slant. I've grown more Independent in my political views. I feel like I have to tolerate that Trump is the President. I feel like this will be the long 4 to 8 years of my life. And the thing is, I know many people are going to call me a "snowflake" or other insult. I know there are many who have no empathy. This election merely highlights who deep the divides in this nation have always been. I look at the things Trump has said, and the way he conducts himself, it scares me. I've wondered if he would carry this same brutish behavior to the White House.

Still have any doubts?
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Old 07-19-2017, 02:14 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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One has to wonder why the news stations and the Democrats and the un-supporting Republicans have lost their minds. President gave a factual accounting of the effects of Obamacare. It will destroy our nation if it is not done away with is the verdict. It wasn't just his opinion, he gave chapter and verse and the reality is it will take more than the entire country is worth.

I go from channel to channel and the talking points I heard were plain crazy. This person doesn't like it, another group doesn't like it, still more groups don't like what he said. Why not ask this question? "What do you have against America being a free country?" If you don't get on board, that is what will happen. America will cease to be. People need to take care of their own health care and insurance.

Obama's goal always seemed to be to turn America into a communist country and by a lack of co-operation with the elected president you are helping him accomplish it. IT IS TIME TO STOP IT!

OH NO!

Don't swallow the Trump BS and the COMMIES! will take over!

Please, Save us Donny, PLEASE!
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Old 07-19-2017, 02:29 PM
 
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Still have any doubts?
I was being conservative with my estimates. I figured he would carry his histrionic ways to the White House. I also have to stop asking why some people are so diehard for Trump. I voted for former President Obama, both times. I voted for former President Bush. I never felt either of them were above criticism.

Many of Trump's supports act like he can do no wrong. I have a few theories to such attitudes.

1) Some people are oblivious to Trump's histrionic, narcissistic behavior.
2) Some people write it off as "he's a good guy at heart", viewing Trump as a wealthier version of Archie Bunker.
3) Some people actually think and behave as Trump, therefore, can relate to him.
4) Some people understand that he has those really bad traits, but don't really care.
5) Some people might regret that they voted for Trump, but won't admit it. It's the fear of "I told you so". It is also that "it's us vs them" mentality. Basically, it's "we have buyers' remorse. We no longer like him. However, we hate those that don't like him even more, so we're going to put up this front as an 'up yours' to everyone else".

I think about all of the possibilities I just listed. It reminds me not of how far we've regressed. It reminds me of what has ALWAYS been there. It's not that hard to turn people against each other, when there was always an "us vs them" under the surface.
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Old 07-19-2017, 02:32 PM
 
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Trump has nothing to do with this. It is the responsibility of the Congress to present a bill for him to sign. President Trump has never threatened to veto anything.
Trump is sure threatening the senators though. Gaw, read about his lunch today. Who is he, the Godfather?
What a pr***.
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Old 07-19-2017, 02:36 PM
 
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One has to wonder why the news stations and the Democrats and the un-supporting Republicans have lost their minds. President gave a factual accounting of the effects of Obamacare. It will destroy our nation if it is not done away with is the verdict. It wasn't just his opinion, he gave chapter and verse and the reality is it will take more than the entire country is worth.

I go from channel to channel and the talking points I heard were plain crazy. This person doesn't like it, another group doesn't like it, still more groups don't like what he said. Why not ask this question? "What do you have against America being a free country?" If you don't get on board, that is what will happen. America will cease to be. People need to take care of their own health care and insurance.

Obama's goal always seemed to be to turn America into a communist country and by a lack of co-operation with the elected president you are helping him accomplish it. IT IS TIME TO STOP IT!

If you want to know what's going to destroy this country, just look to the man in charge. Totally clueless. It's all about his ego, how he made his promise to repeal and replace Obamacare. He doesn't give a rat's azz about this country or the people in it. It's all about saving face. He doesn't even know how the government works! Trying to strong arm senators and holding them hostage until they give him what he wants. Most of the people on Obamacare are his supporters for heaven's sake. This is not HIS business. He is NOT the CEO. Ridiculous behavior.
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Old 07-19-2017, 02:43 PM
 
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Trump has nothing to do with this. It is the responsibility of the Congress to present a bill for him to sign. President Trump has never threatened to veto anything.
All presidents have a hand in getting legislation passed. Have you ever read about how LBJ got the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed? Presidents don't just sit back and sign things.
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Old 07-19-2017, 02:56 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
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"He was of no help," grumbled one GOP senator, who doubted that Trump would have done much to defend lawmakers from political attacks if the bill passed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tdsL4kvp_I
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Old 07-19-2017, 02:57 PM
 
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Yep.

Trump keeps forgetting that he's the President of everyone not just his followers.
Trump considers them his enemies if they aren't his followers. There is no middle ground with him. His entire presidency seems to be focused on attacking his enemies, even enemies that weren't his enemies until he said so. He makes new enemies every day. That's his entire shtick - attacking people and making new enemies to attack.

This way he has no responsibility for anything and he controls the narrative. His followers go along with the routine and they parrot the attacks to his new enemies. He even attacked the pope for awhile there. Trump has a new ENEMY DU JOUR nearly every day. Sometimes it's a group, or a person or a company or a country.
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