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Old 09-25-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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What are you talking about? You think this is about black people "having things"??

I don't even know how you arrived at that conclusion.
You're the one who chose to argue with me about idiotic Colin saying blacks don't have the same opportunities.


If you can't answer my question, stop arguing. Or do as I ask: Name just one single thing I have the opportunity to have or achieve that a black person doesn't.

 
Old 09-25-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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What are you talking about? You think this is about black people "having things"??

I don't even know how you arrived at that conclusion.
Hard to say how Trump and is follower arrive any conclusion.

Lately, there's been this constant barrage about how protesting is un-American.

Where the hell did they get this idea?
 
Old 09-25-2017, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Yeah, I get that.

Wrong symbol, wrong fan base, all done for the wrong reasons. Their entire premise is demonstrably false.
I've never seen a group waste so much media capital on a "cause" then what these players are doing.

I can't even say it's for the "wrong" reasons because I still have no idea what they are talking about.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 06:42 PM
 
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That's the Democrat talking point of the day.

Trump has committed military and FEMA resources to them, and has said he is going to visit. What more is he supposed to do?
I'm watching news report and the governor is saying they need help right now. Some areas haven't even had search and rescue efforts yet.

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Old 09-25-2017, 06:45 PM
 
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You're the one who chose to argue with me about idiotic Colin saying blacks don't have the same opportunities.


If you can't answer my question, stop arguing. Or do as I ask: Name just one single thing I have the opportunity to have or achieve that a black person doesn't.
1) I'm not "arguing". This is a conversation. Or at least, I thought it was.

2) I was merely questioning your post, which seemed to imply that these people are protesting specifically for themselves. I found this interpretation to be an odd one, and indicated to me that you actually misunderstood both their motivations and cause.

They are doing it for other people. Specifically, other black people who are less fortunate than them who may be victims of police brutality or mistreatment. As mentioned above, this concept is called empathy.


I have literally no idea where you are getting that this about black people having stuff.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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A better question to ask is why the anthem is even used at sporting events.

Boxing, horse racing, field and track, tennis, and many other sports never use the anthem, and for most of its existence, neither did baseball, football or basketball.

What's so patriotic about sports anyway? Games are just entertainment. Why not play the anthem before the start of every movie, video game, play or concert? Or before we sit down to a game of cards.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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1861 in SC
 
Old 09-25-2017, 06:47 PM
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Who's disrespecting the national anthem, whatever that means?
 
Old 09-25-2017, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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It's a complicated issue, and I don't think either side of the present controversy has all the answers.

I was a student through most of the times of the last great rift in American society (essentially 1962-1975); old enough to have faced the Vietnam draft, but shielded by major physical issues. I was a college graduate in a "pragmatic" major (Business Administration) but I worked on the front lines in a blue-collar field. so I saw, heard. and understood much of the resentments against a war fought by the working class. But the fact that much of that resentment also came from an over-simplified "patriotism' which had it roots in the much-clearer moral justification of the Second World War; (and also, that the nature of armed conflict was changing in a way which would render land-based combat between massed forces obsolete, but as usual, the pentagon's bureaucracy was slow on the uptake).

I'm a life-long libertarian (small 'l' emphasized) who firmly believes that one can honor his/her nation, and the principles of its flexible, adaptable Constitution, while placing little trust in the machinery of its government and the seekers of power who constantly push to increase its potential for abuse, and to oversimplify, stereotype, and demonize anyone and anything which stands in opposition to them, and as such, I believe that the so-called "Social Justice" movement, and the people it seeks to recruit and manipulate are the greatest current threat to the well-crafted and well-tested system of law which has evolved over the past two and one-half centuries.

Over fifty years ago, in a pivotal election, the nation turned away from the unbridled conservatism of Barry Goldwater with the admonition: "Don't shoot from the hip"; and I believe the same rule was applied by many of us in choosing between two clearly-inferior options the last time around. But it was the entrenched (and highly condescending) power structure within the Beltway which many of us saw as the greater threat.

Simple love of country had little to do with this.

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Old 09-25-2017, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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Did you know that the music for the Star Spangled Banner was stolen from a British Drinking Song,
that sang the glory of wine? It mentioned Apollo and the other Gods of Mythology, in the lyrics.
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Believe it or not, a major push for the United States to adopt an official national anthem was partially spurred by Ripley’s Believe It or Not! On November 3, 1929 Ripley included in a cartoon the text, “Believe It or Not, America has no national anthem.” Momentum for an official anthem grew and, as stated above, on March 3, 1931 President Herbert Hoover officially signed a Congressional resolution into law making the Star Spangled Banner the United States’ national anthem.
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The song sounds much different now than it did 200 years ago.
Francis Scott Key himself wouldn’t recognize today’s version of the national anthem. The song was originally intended for a group of people to sing together. Today “The Star-Spangled Banner” has become a complete soloist affair, and the pace and general tempo is often much slower.

Our national anthem exists because of a cartoon!
America didn’t have a national anthem until 1931—and it could have taken longer if not for a cartoon. In 1929, Robert Ripley published an item in his syndicated “Ripley’s Believe It or Not!” cartoon pointing out the fact that America did not have a national anthem. After Ripley received many letters of backlash, he told these upset patriots that their efforts would be better spent writing their congressmen. This led to a five-million-signature petition asking Congress for a national anthem. It worked. In 1931, President Herbert Hoover signed a law making “The Star-Spangled Banner” the official national anthem of the United States of America.
Read the rest from Readers Digest:

https://www.rd.com/culture/star-span...-anthem-facts/
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It did not become the national anthem until more than a century after it was written.
Along with “Hail Columbia” and “Yankee Doodle,” “The Star-Spangled Banner” was among the prevalent patriotic airs in the aftermath of the War of 1812. During the Civil War, “The Star-Spangled Banner” was an anthem for Union troops, and the song increased in popularity in the ensuing decades, which led to President Woodrow Wilson signing an executive order in 1916 designating it as “the national anthem of the United States” for all military ceremonies. On March 3, 1931, after 40 previous attempts failed, a measure passed Congress and was signed into law that formally designated “The Star-Spangled Banner” as the national anthem of the United States.
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Here is an interesting article on why the Star-Spangled Banner is played at sporting events.
http://www.history.com/news/why-the-...porting-events
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