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View Poll Results: Should football players and university professors be easy to fire for their views?
Football players and university professors can be fired for their views. 142 43.03%
Neither can be fired for their views 188 56.97%
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Old 09-25-2017, 04:58 PM
 
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When did the NFL become such a bunch of spoiled crybabies( players) and fussy old ladies( team owners and coaches) ? They can all go F themselves, and that goes for all sports teams and players that want to indulge in this kind of loser mentality. They get handed the American dream and suddenly its not good enough and they have to ***** and moan about imagined injustices that have no basis in reality. Waaahhhh ... we get tons of money playing a game and we get boo boos and it has to be safer. Waaahhh... I got drunk and hit my wife and its all racisms fault. Waahhhh... these big goons we need on our teams won't play unless we change their diapers and wipe their runny noses.
Money... its where we can make all of these cretins feel pain. Politicians, entertainers, business moguls, the media, all of them will squeal like stuck pigs if we suddenly decided to stop giving them our money.

When you say "they got handed the American dream" can you expand on who and what you are talking about?

 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:01 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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why should trump talk to them? if he does it would be seen by some as the president pushing his view onto private citizens, and he would be excoriated for that.

no what these players and coach should do is come to the realization that what they are doing is wrong, and isnt working like they intended and that they need a new approach, and talk to the fans, or invite the president come to them and help them find a new way to get their message out.

Why shouldn't he? He did after all say he'd be POTUS for everyone.

Or was that just another of his lines of BS?
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:01 PM
 
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i bookmarked that page. michael savage is so right on this.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:03 PM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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Right. According to some here, I guess there should never ever be anymore employee strikes for us regular folks. Strikes are a form of protesting right? And its done on company time where customers have to walk through large crowds of people yelling while holding signs. And guess what? They don't get fired. But taking a peaceful knee is a fireable offence? These people are so disingenuous all you can do is laugh at them.
Actually they can and do get fired. Reagan's firing of air traffic controllers comes to mind.

It's the hypocrisy that is breathtaking. The NFL wouldn't allow the Cowboys to wear a sticker on their helmets for 5 slain police officers. The NFL fined players who wore commemorative cleats on 9/11. They would not allow pink in recognition of breast cancer.

But anti-American stuff? Oh yeah, that they're fine with.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:05 PM
 
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Why shouldn't he? He did after all say he'd be POTUS for everyone.

Or was that just another of his lines of BS?
did you even bother to read EVERYTHING i wrote, or just the first few words? my response was that trump should not go to the on his own, as that would get him in more hot water. i alsso said that the players and coaches should ask trump what direction they should take. i believe if the players and coaches asked trump to meet with them, he would take the meeting, but it has to be the players inviting him, not trump inviting the players.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:05 PM
 
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Actually they can and do get fired. Reagan's firing of air traffic controllers comes to mind.

It's the hypocrisy that is breathtaking. The NFL wouldn't allow the Cowboys to wear a sticker on their helmets for 5 slain police officers. The NFL fined players who wore commemorative cleats on 9/11. They would not allow pink in recognition of breast cancer.

But anti-American stuff? Oh yeah, that they're fine with.
All of the teams wore pink for breast cancer awareness.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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I don't care what the players do, but they should do it on their own time and stick to the game on game day. I just want to see them slamming into one another for three hours ...
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:07 PM
 
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Actually they can and do get fired. Reagan's firing of air traffic controllers comes to mind.

It's the hypocrisy that is breathtaking. The NFL wouldn't allow the Cowboys to wear a sticker on their helmets for 5 slain police officers. The NFL fined players who wore commemorative cleats on 9/11. They would not allow pink in recognition of breast cancer.

But anti-American stuff? Oh yeah, that they're fine with.

Did the NFL stop anyone from protesting 5 slain officers? Special cleats or breast cancer awareness? I don't recall that
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:08 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Trump doesn't need to do ANYTHING besides shut up and stay out of it. As I said in the other post, if the actions of these employees offend you, STOP BUYING THEIR PRODUCT and shut up about it.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:10 PM
 
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Oh, dear, Nonsense Guy.

If you don't remember what this is about, a quick Google search would get you up to speed.



No, They are not violating NFL rules. This lie is being spread around the internet, but it has been debunked several times on this forum, so not sure why you are still spreading it here.

Are NFL Players Required to Stand on the Field During the National Anthem?

"no such wording appears in the 2017 version of the Official Playing Rules of the National Football League (which the NFL also sometimes refers to as an “operations manual”): Pages 62 and 63 contain only regulations about the enforcement of fouls committed on the field during gameplay, and nowhere else does that document specify anything about the either the playing of the national anthem prior to games or the required behavior of players and team personnel during that ceremony. In fact, the rulebook makes no mention of the national anthem at all."
GOOD GRIEF - your own link says this stuff is partly true (some of it added/subtracted in 2017) and adds this at the end:

It’s important to know that NFL football games are governed by multiple codes of conduct. One is the NFL rulebook; another is the NFL game operations manual. The rulebook is concerned with in-game actions by players and coaches (like scoring, penalties, challenges and so on), whereas the game-operations manual dictates how NFL games should be run in the bigger-picture organizational sense.

“The league’s Game Operations Department uses the manual to govern the conduct of home clubs, to ensure they protect players and provide the conditions for a fair and fan-friendly contest,” reads the NFL’s website. “Clubs face warnings and other penalties for noncompliance.”

The NFL rulebook makes no mention of the national anthem. But the game operations manual does.

Here’s what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

‘The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem.

‘During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.’

We have not yet been able to independently confirm the existence and wording of this second document (the NFL has not responded to our query), but the proffered wording states that players must “be” on the sideline for the national anthem, not that they must “stand” on the sideline (the latter is listed as something players “should” do). It also states that players “may” (not “shall”) be penalized for not observing the regulation, and indeed the NFL announced that they would not hand down any discipline over players’ remaining in the locker room before Week 3 games:


Bottom Line - Snopes can't confirm that the rule about the National Anthem does/does not exist and the NFL won't comment on it (can't blame them for that, they are between a Rock and a Hard Spot). It's EXACTLY what I've said from the beginning -- this "rule" (which clearly does exist) is full of "weasel" Lawyers words like MUST, SHOULD, MAY. ..... all of that just means it's Lawyer Speak with no teeth. It doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, just that the cowards are too afraid of being called "racists" to impose any rules at all.

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