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Old 09-25-2017, 05:11 PM
 
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Did the NFL stop anyone from protesting 5 slain officers? Special cleats or breast cancer awareness? I don't recall that
Yes. They weren't protesting the slain officers; it was in support of the police (if I understand correctly). The cleats I think they backed off on after public outrage.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ecal/88558768/

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...rm-violations/

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...rm-violations/

 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:14 PM
 
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Yes. They weren't protesting the slain officers; it was in support of the police (if I understand correctly). The cleats I think they backed off on after public outrage.

links below....


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ecal/88558768/

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...rm-violations/

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/n...rm-violations/
If the NFL didn't stop protest on the topics which they didn't then you have made a poor comparison.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:16 PM
 
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did you even bother to read EVERYTHING i wrote, or just the first few words? my response was that trump should not go to the on his own, as that would get him in more hot water. i alsso said that the players and coaches should ask trump what direction they should take. i believe if the players and coaches asked trump to meet with them, he would take the meeting, but it has to be the players inviting him, not trump inviting the players.

I stopped when I read your "if he does it would be seen by some as the president pushing his view onto private citizens, and he would be excoriated for that." speculation and excuse making.

They were exercising their First Amendment rights and if the Snowflake in Chief takes issue with that it's up to him to start the conversation. And no, I'm not defending them, I think they're going about it wrong, but it's their right to do so.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:19 PM
 
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If the NFL didn't stop protest on the topics which they didn't then you have made a poor comparison.
You are completely missing it. They weren't protests. They were is SUPPORT of police officers (Dallas), the fallen on 9/11 (the cleats), and to bring awareness to breast cancer and domestic violence.

The NFL stopped all of those.

The Titans player wasn't fined for wearing cleats because he backed off on wearing them, after being threatened with the fine:

"Avery Williamson, a starting linebacker for the Tennessee team, hoped to wear a pair of specially-designed cleats at his team’s home opener Sunday against the Minnesota Vikings on the 15th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, but he backed off when a league rep vowed to fine him for violating the league’s uniform code."

Read the articles.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:21 PM
 
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You are completely missing it. They weren't protests. They were is SUPPORT of police officers (Dallas), the fallen on 9/11 (the cleats), and to bring awareness to breast cancer and domestic violence.

The NFL stopped all of those.

The Titans player wasn't fined for wearing cleats because he backed off on wearing them, after being threatened with the fine:

"Avery Williamson, a starting linebacker for the Tennessee team, hoped to wear a pair of specially-designed cleats at his team’s home opener Sunday against the Minnesota Vikings on the 15th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, but he backed off when a league rep vowed to fine him for violating the league’s uniform code."

Read the articles.

I'm aware of the issues you are talking about but they are unrelated to protesting hence my questioning, rephrasing were the players allowed to alter their uniform for this latest issue? No they weren't
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:25 PM
 
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I'm aware of the issues you are talking about but they are unrelated to protesting hence my questioning, rephrasing were the players allowed to alter their uniform for this latest issue? No they weren't
And again, you are missing the point.

The NFL is allowing players to make a political statement when it is anti-American.

They do not allow players to make a political statement when it is pro-American.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:27 PM
 
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Guess we know what locker room talk actually is all about.

 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:28 PM
 
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The notion that protesting for fair and equal treatment by the cops is unAmerican is flat bizarre.

Sounds a lot like white supremacy BS.
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:30 PM
 
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And again, you are missing the point.

The NFL is allowing players to make a political statement when it is anti-American.

They do not allow players to make a political statement when it is pro-American.
How was what they did anti American? It was exactly what America stands for, freedom!
 
Old 09-25-2017, 05:31 PM
 
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And again, you are missing the point.

The NFL is allowing players to make a political statement when it is anti-American.

They do not allow players to make a political statement when it is pro-American.
False equivalence. The players could have protested before and they also wouldn't be allowed to alter their uniforms in support of the current cause. They weren't allowed to alter their uniforms before nor are they now. They could have protested silently before just as they are now. I'm not missing the point, you are either purposely or ignorantly conflating two issues as equivalents
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