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Old 08-14-2017, 03:38 PM
 
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You can't just toss someone out of your home either if they established rights to be there such as a tenet.
Ever heard of Kelo v. New London and Berman v. Parker?
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Old 08-14-2017, 03:38 PM
 
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I work with many far left people who openly talk negatively and about and mock our president and openly talk about how anyone that supports him is a bigot, racist, uneducated and live in the "fly over states" that don't matter anyway etc. That is disruptive to my job everyday just like someone openly discussing racist views, anti American views, anti police, personal religious views and about sexuality. But none of those people are getting fired and nor do I think they should because I'm an adult and understand I live in the greatest country on earth where everyone is free to have their own opinion whether I agree with it or not.
And you have that right. There have been no violations of free speech here in regards to these people losing their jobs!

Don't like that other people are expressing negative views you don't like? Well, tell your employer. If nothing happens, then you have an answer on that company's stance.

You're free to work elsewhere, you know. Or to start up your own company.
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Old 08-14-2017, 03:39 PM
 
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First amendment doesn't apply to your employment.

Think of it this way: it is legal to drink in the states. However if you show up to work inebriated, you're gonna get fired. Employers have their own rules of conduct.
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Old 08-14-2017, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Austin
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As a Jewish woman, I wouldn't do business with someone who was photographed at a protest rally with others who chanted at the Charlottesville rally "Jews will not replace us".

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Old 08-14-2017, 03:41 PM
 
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Legally speaking they can, thanks to the "at will doctrine" that is currently in effect in every US state, even California.
Well they can't infringe on your 4th amendment rights. I don't think employers should be stifling free speech. Whether they can legally fire you or not doesn't make it less un-American or anti-free speech.
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Old 08-14-2017, 03:42 PM
 
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You can't just toss someone out of your home either if they established rights to be there such as a tenet. You just don't recognize employee rights or free speech rights. You just see private property wealth as supremacy, kind of like feudalism.
Employees do not have no such rights. And tell us how if you owned a business you'd employ a known KKK member lol
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Old 08-14-2017, 03:42 PM
 
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Well they can't infringe on your 4th amendment rights. I don't think employers should be stifling free speech. Whether they can legally fire you or not doesn't make it less un-American or anti-free speech.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of American values and the Constitution.
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Old 08-14-2017, 03:45 PM
 
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I am a conservative and voted for Trump. I worked in healthcare for 20+ years and would not want to see someone with hatred against any race, gender, sexual orientation working in healthcare. Healthcare professionals need to give the best care for all people regardless.
The problem is just about every anti-white racist viewpoint is tolerated. There is a double standard and only PC free speech decided by the left and non-white identity groups.
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Old 08-14-2017, 03:47 PM
 
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You have a fundamental misunderstanding of American values and the Constitution.
I think you do. We didn't always have PC speech and people getting fired for things they said or place they were seen. This is a very recent phenomenon facilitated by politics.
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Old 08-14-2017, 03:47 PM
 
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I think you do. We didn't always have PC speech and people getting fired for things they said or place they were seen. This is a very recent phenomenon facilitated by politics.
You're welcome to your non-PC speech. What is the issue here exactly? Please be VERY specific.

Freedom of speech has NEVER meant freedom from consequences or counter speech (unless, again, you're talking about the government). You really need to re-read the Constitution and become familiar with US history.
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