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Old 09-20-2017, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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You consider George H W Bush, Republican, the 41st President of the United States - to be a liberal?

Yes, and his son George W. Bush in many ways, also. These are patrician elitist, New World Order, Establishment Republicans that LOVE big government, and big government spending. I am not saying they are bad people, just not conservatives, nor fiscally responsible.
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Old 09-20-2017, 07:31 AM
 
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I bet most of those committing the violent crimes in Chicago aren't registered to vote and don't associate with any party and they don't follow politics. They are gang members and many of them are too young to vote since they are under 18. They are losers that don't work and they hang out on street corners and peddle drugs and guns and protect their drug turf. They hate anything to do with authority and law and this includes politics.

However, most people in Chicago are hard working regular people. Those folks stay away from the gang members as best they can.
I've lived in Chicago and that's my take on things.

The constant references to the "carnage" in Chicago must be referring to certain areas of South Chicago. These areas are not known for politically active residents.

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Old 09-20-2017, 07:37 AM
 
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Democrat math/research is always off. The democrats entire platform preys on the low educated voter.
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Old 09-20-2017, 07:39 AM
 
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I've lived in Chicago and that's my take on things.

The constant references to the "carnage" in Chicago must be referring to certain areas of South Chicago. These areas are not known for politically active residents.

Chicago's murder rate is actually not even in the top 10. When conservatives insist it is it just proves that they are not educated.
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Old 09-20-2017, 07:42 AM
 
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Voters in WV stated they supported Trump in part because he would bring back coal and all those high paying coal jobs.

Hard to imagine an educated person believing this.

If coal mining ever does come back, and that looks unlikely, it will be done by giant machines with very few high paying jobs. WV residents would be ruining their mountains and poisoning their rivers for a few, short-term jobs.

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Old 09-20-2017, 08:04 AM
 
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I'd disagree. Look at Antifa. BLM. The whiny, Berniebots that demand free stuff with no effort on their part. The intolerance and violence of so many on the left. The constant attacks on America and especially the working class by the left. ALL of those things are products of our educational industry. All of those acts and concepts came from our left-leaning universities and have for decades. Academia in far too many cases has become a training ground for leftists and an anti-intellectual stronghold. Not all degree programs or universities of course-we still have schools teaching the hard sciences and STEM classes where most often this doesn't apply. But it is far too common in most liberal arts "basket weaving" programs.
This is a ridiculous assumption. Conservatives aren't heavily represented in the academic world because most of their theories have no empirical basis. In fact, thoughts on free trade and minimum wage are probably the only conservative views well embraced by social scientists.
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Old 09-20-2017, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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I would describe anybody who voted for Hillary Clinton or supported Bernie Sanders as a liberal.

In the case of Bernie Sanders, it's actually socialist.
This is true, Bernie even said it himself that he is not a liberal.
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Old 09-20-2017, 08:33 AM
 
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Sometimes you have to look beyond your own selfish interests and vote for what you think is good for the nation as a whole.


what's good for the middle class is good for the nation, or have you been so brainwashed you've forgotten that?
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Old 09-20-2017, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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The media always likes to present Democrats as more educated and claim college educated people are supposed to be liberal. However I've noticed this is probably only the cases in the Northeast, the East Coast and West Coast.

Here in Louisiana, and where I used to live in West Virginia, your average Republican is a LOT more educated than your average Democrat. Here in the Baton Rouge area most of the college educated, middle class suburban people are Republican and many suburban communities voted for Trump by over 80%, higher than many of the rural towns in fact. Its very common to meet people who are well traveled, sophisticated, have high incomes, even have yuppie tastes like going to Trader Joes and still be very Republican. While social conservatism certainly still predominates here in the South, most people are also fiscally conservative and don't believe in government dependency. The culture of entitlement is still mostly seen as an inner city and illegal alien thing, vs in the rest of the country where many young people are also into the culture of entitlement and dependency ie Bernie Sanders base. The most Democrat areas are the most impoverished, uneducated ghettoes in New Orleans and Baton Rouge's inner city areas.

WV is a mostly blue collar state but the most Democrat counties were the poorest and least educated. Contrary to media portrayal, your stereotypical "trailer trash" is more likely to be socially liberal and are often politically apathetic and don't vote. The hardworking blue collar folks, the middle class folks and the business leaders were mostly conservative and also tended to be more openly religious.

Its the liberal Democrats in the NYC and LA suburbs and the Bay Area that vote against their own economic interests just so they can push their liberal social agenda on the rest of the nation.
They are two liberal corridors in America. You have the West Coast liberal corridor that stretches from LA, to Seattle. San Diego is the only conservative city on the West Coast. West Coast is mainly dominated by Hollywood, Silicon valley heads in the Bay Area and Seattle.

The East coast or Northeast corridor which is liberal stretches from DC to Boston. The Northeast is home to the nations most prestigious universities. All the Ivy League schools are located in the Northeast, plus other notable schools such as NYU, Georgetown, George Washington, MIT, John Hopkins, Carnegie Mellon, and Temple. The Northeast is also dominated by industries, DC is dominated by NGO, policy making government, NYC is dominated by finance, banking, insurance and real estate, Boston is dominated by education, health industry, Philly is the great oddity of the Northeast. All the Northeast cities are expensive such as NYC, DC, Boston, Philly is least expensive of the four, due to not being attractive by suburban white millennials. Over the past decade plenty of suburban white millennials moved to these big cities for jobs after college, white suburbia has no jobs except for malls, logistics facilities and carriers, data centers, and wall mart.

The Northeast Corridor and the West Coast are very influential in many aspects of the daily lives of Americans. Microsoft and Amazon are based in Seattle, Apple and Facebook is in Bay Area, Media comes out of both LA and NYC, government policy making comes out of DC. Such cities where these industries come from affects the lives of millions of Americans, if not the world over. These cities also attract the brightest people across the country and at times the world.

They are other cities in America that are educated liberal. Chicago is one of those liberal cities and that's in the heartland of America. Atlanta which is the biggest black city in America, even though majority of blacks in the south are conservative, they also tend to vote democrat slave party. Over the decades, a great migration of black Americans from the north who are escaping the high cost of living in NYC and DC areas have brought their liberal ways to Atlanta. Miami has gotten more and more liberal due to wealthy South Americans offshoring their money there. Austin Texas is a big liberal city surrounded in a sea of read.

What is also funny is that these liberal cities are not also expensive, but their suburbs are just as expensive as the cities. DC DMN suburbs are expensive, Boston suburbs like Cambridge are expensive, an NYC area suburbs are expensive, LA area suburbs are expensive. Just look up the prices on Zillow.

Cities like NYC, DC, San Francisco, rebounded. San Francisco and NYC was pillaged with HIV, DC, LA and NYC were notorious for crime and violence. I remember hearing how one can hear gunshots outside the white house during the 80s. Reagan, Bush, and Clinton put in a lot of money to reinvest in America's big cities and now these cities are top of the heap. America neglected middle America. This is why if you go to NYC, DC, Boston, you see so many white people from middle America looking for jobs, living with roommates with an income of 50k a year. Where I live in NYC, the South Bronx, you only see middle white Americans go to a yankee game, now I see middle white Americans living in my neighborhood.

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Old 09-20-2017, 08:44 AM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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As to a lot of educated, well-traveled, sophisticated folk living in West Virginia...

What a hoot.


Never have been to WVa but I recognise ignorance when I see it. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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