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Lawsuits are expensive as well. Gun safes may be cheaper.
Well, maybe they will demand people declare their guns and explain why they have them. Maybe fill out a form and register those guns. Maybe they won't even let you stay there with your guns. Or there can be special hunting hotels lodges for those with guns, where everyone signs a waiver in case they are shot or killed. Who knows?
You think that hunters cannot be inconvenienced? Smokers are.
You think hotels will not be held liable for crazy guests shooting people in or from their hotel? People will need assurances it is safe to stay in hotels.
Sad that this is what it has come to in this country, but mass carnage will do that.
Remember when you could pretty much just get on a plane?
I can still just pretty much get on a plane.
Of what "use" or "purpose" would registering a gun have done in this case? In any case? That's like the most ill advised idea people float out there over and over. This guy was prepared to die. What would a database do to help stop mass shootings? Answer, nothing.
It just boils down to those that make decisions and statements based on logic and knowledge and those that make decisions and statements based on emotion.
Yeah?
Do tell what I typed that was non-factual.
We have had umpteen threads of this nature and the same people say the same things. IF you think that we are changing one thing by typing out thoughts on CD - you are very sadly mistaken.
My emotion or lack thereof is completely meaningless other than some like to fancy themselves as a voice of reason.
As usual, the left are starting to politicize this tragic event and want more laws or knee jerk reactions that don't do anything to stop criminals from getting guns. This Paddock individual was "known" to Las Vegas police, and we're hearing that his father was a wanted bank robber.
Put the blame for this horrific act where it belongs and before everyone starts pointing fingers, let's see what this guy's motives were, and what made him snap.
And that will make a difference . . how?
No matter WHAT made him snap - the fact is he was able to get his hands on a bunch of guns that allowed him to shoot from afar - kill 58 people and wound hundreds more.
I couldn't care LESS who he supported for President - be it Trump, Hillary, or the tooth fairy.
How many guns and/or bullets did Jeffrey Dahmer use to kill his 17 victims? Out of all the victims of Leonard Lake and Charles Ng, how many of them were killed using a gun? How about all of the Charles Manson victims, how many of those were killed with a gun verses how many of them were killed without the use of a gun? How about Timothy McVeigh, how many of his victims did he kill with the use of a gun? How about the 9-11 hijack terrorists, how may shots did they fire when they killed the 2,753 people?
Point is, if someone has the intentions on killing, they are going to find whatever means possible to meet their objective.
Let me put you out hunting a deer and you get lost, say you break an arm in a fall.
Now which would you rather have in that situation, a pocket full of rounds that you have to load one handed or a box magazine or two that only takes one hand to insert.
The stories of people getting lost while hunting is not unknown.
Plus, if the guy had 10 loaded 'deer rifles' with almost five minutes to shoot there would still be bodies all over the place. Maybe even more dead since they are designed to snipe at long ranges and use frangible projectiles that transfer thousands of pounds of energy vs full metal jacketed military surplus.
At 400 yards most modern cartridges for medium to big game only drop about 18-20 inches.
As usual, the left are starting to politicize this tragic event and want more laws or knee jerk reactions that don't do anything to stop criminals from getting guns. This Paddock individual was "known" to Las Vegas police, and we're hearing that his father was a wanted bank robber.
Put the blame for this horrific act where it belongs and before everyone starts pointing fingers, let's see what this guy's motives were, and what made him snap.
You're shocked, shocked I tell ya!, that gun control advocates are speaking out after a mass shooting left 58 people dead?????????
This Paddock individual wasn't known by the Mesquite police, and the Las Vegas police issued him a traffic citation years ago. His father was in prison or on the run his entire life, so the family had nothing to do with him. The blame belongs to Paddock, regardless of his motives.
Anyone mechanically inclined can modify some semi-automatic rifles to fire automatically. The instructions are out there on the web, although I have never looked myself.
Yup.
I know Mesquite. The desert area in Utah, Nevada, and Arizona that surrounds Mesquite is full of gun loving crazies with violent notions who live in that desert.
There are thousands of never-used semi-auto assault rifles that can be bought very cheap right now, and anyone with some know-how and a couple of cheap parts can buy one, convert it to fully automatic fire and sell it for thousands of dollars.
I'm sure some of those desert rats have made a lot of money doing just that. None of the parts are illegal to purchase, but even if they were, they wouldn't be hard to make, and they sure would not be hard to sell.
I don't even want to take a guess at Paddock's motives, but he lived in Mesquite long enough to learn who and where to buy automatic assault rifles, and all the money he needed to buy them, and all the time he needed to learn to shoot them, out in the desert where there's lots of empty space to shoot a gun in.
According to the latest news I've heard, had at least 10 rifles in his room. He undoubtedly brought plenty of ammunition for them.
To me, that shows a lot of premeditation. This was the 4th year of the Route 91 Harvest outdoor festival, and it's always been held at the same place. Paddock went to Vegas regularly, so he's known about the festival ever since it began.
He knew the Mandalay Bay casino hotel overlooked the festival. He knew when the festival's dates were for months or years, as it's always been held around the same time every year.
He must have reserved his room at the Mandalay in advance, as the festival has been sold out every year for 3 years in a row. 10 rifles is a stack of weaponry, so he had to figure out how to get them all up to the 32nd floor without undue notice.
And then, he waited until the festival's headliner, Jason Aldean, took the stage. Aldean is a top favorite in country music, so he knew when the crowd would be most packed with fans. And then he waited until Aldean began his set, allowing time for late-comers to join the crowd before he started shooting.
He knew how long he had to shoot because he knew how many cops would be there, doing routine crowd control and assistance. He knew just how long it would take them to respond once he started shooting, and probably knew just how long it would take to find him, because he shot himself just before they broke down the door to his room.
All that says this was no impulsive attack, or even one that started to grow in his mind a day or two before.
We may never know why he did it, but I'm pretty sure he was a happy guy in those last seconds of his life; he had just enough time to really take in what he had done before he killed himself.
Someone uses a bomb and 50 die, someone uses a truck and 50 die, someone uses a gun and 50 die.
What do they all have in common? That too many people in this world have become disconnected or otherwise intolerant with no regard for life be it because of religious, political or otherwise motives. You are not going to stop this until that changes.
Just look at the attitude of many people, wondering if the guy is white or middle astern brown hoping it is one or the other. Or saying no sympathy for republican voting country concert victims associating country music with republican leaning voters or no sympathy from a christian or muslim leaning person for a gay victim at the Orlando shooting.
We are so divided by politics and color to the point that deep inside many people are not so sympathetic if it is a political rival of theirs.
People are learning to dehumanize their fellow humans if they aren't on "their side" more and more which leads to this
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