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^^^^Georgia has a large inner city Black on Black violent crime problem do to drugs, gangs, and turf. Does England? It is a demographic, and behavioral problem, not a gun problem. Address why the people that murder each other do so.
Stop violating the rights of the law abiding! Also educate yourself with regards to societal differences.
^^^^Georgia has a large inner city Black on Black violent crime problem do to drugs, gangs, and turf. Does England? It is a demographic, and behavioral problem, not a gun problem. Address why the people that murder each other do so.
Stop violating the rights of the law abiding! Also educate yourself with regards to societal differences.
The poster is basically comparing an apple to a watermelon.
^^^^Georgia has a large inner city Black on Black violent crime problem do to drugs, gangs, and turf. Does England? It is a demographic, and behavioral problem, not a gun problem. Address why the people that murder each other do so.
Stop violating the rights of the law abiding! Also educate yourself with regards to societal differences.
You can't blame it on demographics since London alone has a black population of over a million people. More then 4x as many black people as Atlanta. It has the same issues that Georgia does with drugs and gangs. Yet it has way way way less homicides. Why is it?
Too funny! One of the reasons often sited for the success in Australia not possible in the U.S. is the ability for Australia to keep guns out of the country in ways the United States cannot. This is a common anti-gun control argument with respect to Australia specifically that I have read more than a few times.
This about the "thousands of guns" being smuggled into Australia not so much, and that you don't provide a source of this information suggests to me you might be reading too much of this sort of thing on pro-gun sites you don't want to make obvious. Or have you got a credible source/justification for your claim when we all know statistics about black market gun smuggling is pretty much impossible to accurately come by? Data that also confirms how many guns are smuggled thanks to gun collectors vs criminals let alone murderers is something you can also no doubt provide. Please do.
While meanwhile, this is why you believe the Australians are not pushing to reverse their gun control laws? Another good one!
I have traveled a good deal more than most people, and I never go through these paces you describe. Go down in a plane, and you have about as much chance of survival as you do if some yahoo with a gun decides to put you in their sites and pull the trigger. I want to enjoy the flight, enjoy the concert, enjoy my drive on the highway, eat dinner without having to think about every way I can be killed. That's how I choose to live while at the same time not being a fool about obvious ways to stay safe and/or avoid danger. Call me what you will. Some can surf without a care. Others won't because of sharks.
Talk about statistics, which fears are more or less justified? People will fear and do what they will regardless.
Point is, there are lots of people now feeling fearful like you describe that not too long ago weren't having to be fearful about shots from out of nowhere when simply wanting to watch a movie, listen to live music, go to church. Just because you or others are okay or expecting to run safety drills wherever you go, have a gun at the ready as if it helps, not everyone wants to be in that mode as an everyday part of living life.
You say "this is life," but it sounds like YOUR life, not mine, not everyone's.
Just like some people can't imagine life without their guns while others can't imagine having one! People are different and "what's on the brain" is just as different depending on who you talk to.
Planes crash on runways, too, without even taking off. Even if they do take off, it is still survivable at times such as with the DC-10 in the corn fields. AT ANY RATE, I didn't come up with that, it is the recommended by those in airline safety, including the flight attendants, something like, "Please take a moment to locate the nearest exit to you, keeping in mind that it may be behind you.".
Now, about not everyone wants to be in that mode as an everyday part of living life, how does one avoid it when there are others out there determine to make a point of you, use your target status to their advantage?
Whether it is with guns, or gasoline as in the Happy Land Fire, or gas such as that being used in chemical suicides, or Molotov cocktails, or hijackings (in the 60s, the terrorists figured out it was much more "profitable" to hijack planes than just kill soldiers, https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...rael-1.5424289 ) , or whatever, .....
FACE IT, we are targets at one point or another. You may wish it otherwise, but there are people out there determine to take the easy targets, the vulnerable, and use them for their advantage, whether it is because they are upset, angry, have a political point to make, or whatever.
Finally, everyone's life is like that at one point or another.
LOL at people living in a country with 30'000+ gun deaths every year STILL trying to claim that lax gun laws aren't the problem!! :-D
You live in a country that has regulated BB guns and is attempting to ban pointy kitchen knives. Nobody here is taking you seriously when it comes to the topic of gun control.
You live in a country that has regulated BB guns and is attempting to ban pointy kitchen knives. Nobody here is taking you seriously when it comes to the topic of gun control.
Why? His country has a minuscule fraction of gun deaths, violence and injuries compared to the US.
If he told you that the UK invented a cure for cancer, would you ignore it because they have a Nationalized health system unlike the US? Makes no sense.
Just a few of the many accounts of gun smuggling into Australia
More funnies...
Yes of course there are "accounts" of gun smuggling, but to suggest this supply of guns is why Australians aren't calling to reverse their gun control laws. You really must be kidding!
From your first link: "The ACC estimated there were over 250,000 rifles and shotguns and 10,000 handguns in the illicit market in 2012. For comparison, there were some 2.75m registered guns held by 730,000 licence holders." As compared to how many guns in the United States?
Your second link: a typical conservative pro-gun blogger, just as I suspected, but okay. Let's pretend this sort of story is why Australians are satisfying their gun demand through the black market, "Last March, three people were charged after Australian and German detectives smashed an international gun-smuggling syndicate that was being run, in part, from a suburban southern Sydney post office. It is alleged up to 300 Glock pistols were imported over 12 months through the postal system."
Your third link: "A syndicate working out of a suburban Sydney post office smuggled more than 130 high-powered, highly restricted semi-automatic handguns into Australia through the mail, at a time when the city was in the grip of an outbreak of drive-by shootings."
This proves to you that Australians are getting enough guns through the black market to satisfy their demand for guns? Seems like another one of those desperately weak pro-gun arguments to me, AKA BS.
Points for at least providing some reference links to understand your POV however. Helps!
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