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When I was pre-teen, there was a out-break of teenage suicide in my town.
The two most common ways were car-in-the-closed-garage or, if you didn't have a car or a garage, taking something (alcohol or drug) to the point of passing out while laying on the rail road tracks. My uncle was a police man at the time. He had a lot of nightmares from wandering up and down the tracks picking up pieces.
If you plan to commit suicide, please don't. Get help. In the case of euthanasia (terminal illness), then at least pick a non-messy way.
Wish I had thought to comment as you just did instead or as well. Thanks. I wonder how many teen suicides are by way of the manner you describe and/or by use of a gun. Right again. On to other more productive and happier things to do now, really. Cheers! Really...
Ah, people falling over themselves to avoid the obvious facts: We have a mass shooting problem because we have too many guns. Period.
You either think the issue is important enough to limit gun ownership, or you don't.
The reason why you think it isn't important enough tends to vary between "the big bad government is coming after me" to "the big bad minority/liberal man is coming to rob me".
Thousands of words and back and forth simply to deny this obvious truth. If we didn't have 300 million guns in the country, someone looking to get their hands on a gun would have a harder time getting one. The disingenuous dog and pony show is pathetic.
Ah, people falling over themselves to avoid the obvious facts: We have a mass shooting problem because we have too many guns. Period.
You either think the issue is important enough to limit gun ownership, or you don't.
The reason why you think it isn't important enough tends to vary between "the big bad government is coming after me" to "the big bad minority/liberal man is coming to rob me".
Thousands of words and back and forth simply to deny this obvious truth. If we didn't have 300 million guns in the country, someone looking to get their hands on a gun would have a harder time getting one. The disingenuous dog and pony show is pathetic.
How many is too many? If we had half the guns would we have fewer shootings? My guns are doing a poor job because they haven't shot anything outside of paper since the 1980s and that was just my deer hunting rifle.
I don't think it is important enough to infringe upon my rights.
How many is too many? If we had half the guns would we have fewer shootings? My guns are doing a poor job because they haven't shot anything outside of paper since the 1980s and that was just my deer hunting rifle.
I don't think it is important enough to infringe upon my rights.
That's the problem. Their solutions never address the real problem, and never focus on the PERPETRATOR. Instead they focus on the law abiding, and punish them for the actions of criminals who are already breaking many laws. The real goal is to not reduce violence, but to take away guns from the law abiding to further control them, and make them further dependent on government.
That's the problem. Their solutions never address the real problem, and never focus on the PERPETRATOR. Instead they focus on the law abiding, and punish them for the actions of criminals who are already breaking many laws. The real goal is to not reduce violence, but to take away guns from the law abiding to further control them, and make them further dependent on government.
Ok and how do you propose we fix the "PERPETRATOR" problem?
How many is too many? If we had half the guns would we have fewer shootings? My guns are doing a poor job because they haven't shot anything outside of paper since the 1980s and that was just my deer hunting rifle.
I don't think it is important enough to infringe upon my rights.
There you have it. It isn't important enough. And, you are a tough guy as well with your lack of reason.
And a lot of gun nuts respond to it seeming like it WILL become important enough for the populace (hence the hysterical attacks on protestors) by saying "we'll shoot you/start a civil war" etc.
Nice folks, these gun nuts. America should be proud we have a preponderance of irrational man-children.
That's the problem. Their solutions never address the real problem, and never focus on the PERPETRATOR. Instead they focus on the law abiding, and punish them for the actions of criminals who are already breaking many laws. The real goal is to not reduce violence, but to take away guns from the law abiding to further control them, and make them further dependent on government.
No, the purpose is to reduce the number of guns which directly effects their availability to murderous lunatics.
I know this is difficult to irrational people to comprehend, but you'd hope adults can at least try. I couldn't give to ****s if you sit in your house stroking your arsenal of weapons with the fantasies of manly-hood and power they create for you. What I do care about is that your obsession with them which has created a public policy that ends with a country awash in guns that are far too easy for people with murderous intent to access.
The gun nut answer is to lock up anyone who shows an inkling of mental illness. So, your right to own a gun precedes the rights of everyone else to live free from imprisonment. Great.
There you have it. It isn't important enough. And, you are a tough guy as well with your lack of reason.
And a lot of gun nuts respond to it seeming like it WILL become important enough for the populace (hence the hysterical attacks on protestors) by saying "we'll shoot you/start a civil war" etc.
Nice folks, these gun nuts. America should be proud we have a preponderance of irrational man-children.
I'm a libertarian constitutionalist. Basically, I'm not full Libertarian because I don't believe the market should drive everything. The federal government should have a small hand is doing the 18 things as defined in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution.
The federal government outlawed the sale and consumption of alcohol by amending the Constitution. They reversed that decision by amending the Constitution again. How did they get the power to outlaw drugs? They didn't.
My sister died as a direct result of using recreational drugs that are deemed illegal by the federal government. Most people would in my situation would be for more federal drug laws or harsher penalties for dealers. That would go against my principles.
Same way for guns. While I do not want any more gun violence or violence in any form, the federal government has already infringed on my 2nd Amendment right starting back in 1934.
You can call me a tough guy despite the fact I've never been in a fight in almost 50 years. I think my reasoning is pretty logical. I would never be the aggressor with a weapon in any altercation but I am fully trained and prepared to return aggression 10 fold.
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