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There are over 12,000 gun related homicides in the US every year. Which averages about 230 people per week or the equivalent of jetliner. If ever week a jetliner crashed killing 230 people, how long would we go before we made major overhauls to either the planes or the airline industry?
If every week 230 people died from contaminated drinking water how long would we go before we started purifying the water?
If Hurricane Irma swept in and killed 12,000 people would we make major overhauls to ensure it didn't happen again?
Yet we accept 12,000 gun deaths a year and we do nothing. We have no right calling ourselves a first world nation.
If you take away suicide, and inner city gang violence the number drops dramatically. These are people problems. They aren't accidents, or mechanical failures. Banning guns will neither remove them from society, nor will it stop violent people committing crime. Address the violent people no matter what tool is used.
you are missing the point. The 89 deaths in England on the bridge were done using a truck.. not a firearm.
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Originally Posted by Hesychios
"...there’s a more basic problem when comparing firearm and motor vehicle deaths. The causes of death are very different. In 2013, 99.4% of car deaths were accidental in nature. In sharp contrast, only 1.8% of gun deaths were accidental. A staggering 65% of gun fatalities are suicides. "
Interesting ideas, I give you a thumbs up for thinking outside the box at least.
Having a tuff time with #1, I see your point of view, honestly can't counter it off the top of my head.
1. Stop releasing anybody who is ineligible to own a firearm. They need to stay in prison or hospital until their situations change.
2. Impose a mandatory 10 years minimum sentence without parole for anybody committing any felony with any arm, not just guns. The second time, the person gets life without parole.
3. Abolish background check entirely (see #1) - employment or gun purchase. Either people have paid the debt to the society or they should stay in prison until such time.
4. Prohibit all media from glorifying mass murderers. For example, a murderer should only not be named or he should be given ridiculous nickname. Language such as "most deadly mass shooting in history" should not be used.
5. All accomplices including the straw purchaser should be charged with the same crime as the primary.
6. Parents should be held liable for their children (<18) using their guns to commit crime.
7. Change the prison system so that inmates must work, learn or both.
I'm in, except for #6
A 16 year old wigs out, tortures both parents to give up the gun safe code , then steals the guns an goes on a shooting spree. How can the parents be responsible for that ?
Please don't post such idiotic stuff suggesting there is no difference between a semi auto holding 15 or more rounds per mag that is capable of being rapid fired and reloaded almost instantly, and a shotgun or rifle .You simply demonstrate that you have no common sense and aren't worth taking seriously.
I think you are he one making senseless claim....you need a range session and some trigger time before talking about things you do not know nothing about...
Yes the is almost no difference in the ability to send rounds downrange between a lever action, a pump and a semi-auto....as a matter of fact, I can keep reloading some lever actions or pumps as I shoot
better than fumbling with magazines........learn something about firearms before posting....
1. So anyone ever convicted of any kind of felony must serve life in prison without parole? Because currently any ex-felon is barred from owning firearms unless they successfully petion to get their rights restored. Your idea would have anyone released from prison being eligible. You would be weakening current laws.
4. So much for the First Amendment.
6. You mean parents should go to prison for life without parole if their kid kills someone with a gun?
Again, the most important thing is the rights of gun nuts.
They super-cede any and all other rights or concerns anyone may have.
The most important thing, again, is that powerless man-children have their toys to stroke while fantasizing about a race war or communist insurrection. We must adjust all laws, including those which commit people to mental health institutions, to make sure that unfettered access to weapons is our first priority.
i like guns, what i don't like are civilians owning weapons capable of "mass destruction," whether from the factory or via modifications.
Own a musket. For home defense since thats what the found fathers intended, of course.
Five ruffians barge in my domicile.
"What the devils!?" AS I put on my powdered wig on and spring from my stool.
Grab my Kentucky long rifle. First scallywag through the door gets a baseball sized hole through his chest. He's dead before he hits the ground.
Draw my pistol on the second one BANG misses completely at 12 yards distance since it's a smooth bore and round ball of course, flies through the neighbors wall and tags their dog.
DRATS! As I sprint to the kitchen grabbing the blunder buss and powder horn.
Ram all the forks and knives down the tube **** the hammer KABOOM hits the second and third. AHH HAA take that you scoundrel! But the other two still come charging!
Drats... what to do... I clip clop down the hallway and mount my cannon it's loaded with grape shot.
They round the corner...
TALLY HO LADS! I light the fuse KABOOOM I make shreds out of them.
Ears ringing house filled with smoke what's this!? Another one outside slowly approaches intent to collect booty... I briskly run down the hallway grabbing the rifle... no time to waste... I fix my bayonet and charge the last rapscallion deaf as can be. I shout as loud as I can charging through the smoke and fog of war and plunge my blade into his chest. By now the neighbors have alerted the authorities
Tis a shame the last bloody one bleeds out when the medical staff arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are a bloody nightmare to stitch shut. He expires on the front lawn.
I saw ZERO outrage about Sandy Hook from Republicans. They jumped behind the NRA screaming the answer was more guns. That mother was an NRA member that used guns as a method of bonding with her mentally unstable son. The first person he shot was his mother.
Show me where a parent was charged with murder for the death of a child that was shot by another child. Show me where a gun owner was charged when someone at a party grabbed an available gun and killed someone over something stupid because of alcohol. The guy that shot another guy in the movie theater over texting still hasn't gone to jail and probably never will. Reality is, guns may be a source of security for many but no one is held liable for the massive number of injuries and deaths that result from their easy proximity whether it is a child finding one in a purse to people keeping them around the house like they are a standard appliance.
Own a musket. For home defense since thats what the found fathers intended, of course.
Five ruffians barge in my domicile.
"What the devils!?" AS I put on my powdered wig on and spring from my stool.
Grab my Kentucky long rifle. First scallywag through the door gets a baseball sized hole through his chest. He's dead before he hits the ground.
Draw my pistol on the second one BANG misses completely at 12 yards distance since it's a smooth bore and round ball of course, flies through the neighbors wall and tags their dog.
DRATS! As I sprint to the kitchen grabbing the blunder buss and powder horn.
Ram all the forks and knives down the tube **** the hammer KABOOM hits the second and third. AHH HAA take that you scoundrel! But the other two still come charging!
Drats... what to do... I clip clop down the hallway and mount my cannon it's loaded with grape shot.
They round the corner...
TALLY HO LADS! I light the fuse KABOOOM I make shreds out of them.
Ears ringing house filled with smoke what's this!? Another one outside slowly approaches intent to collect booty... I briskly run down the hallway grabbing the rifle... no time to waste... I fix my bayonet and charge the last rapscallion deaf as can be. I shout as loud as I can charging through the smoke and fog of war and plunge my blade into his chest. By now the neighbors have alerted the authorities
Tis a shame the last bloody one bleeds out when the medical staff arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are a bloody nightmare to stitch shut. He expires on the front lawn.
Just as the founding fathers had intended.
A revolver is probably more effective in that situation
Also you would fill your cannon with canister shot in that situation, not grapeshot
The First Amendment didn't give us those rights. The First Amendment and the Bill of Rights was written to establish that Government must not infringe upon those rights.
Our inalienable rights come from God.
At the time of the writing of the Constitution, there was much argument and discussion about whether our rights should be enumerated at all, because some believed that if they were, people would claim, as we see happening today, that those rights were granted by government, and therefore government could take them away.
You'll find it all in The Federalist Papers.
Love your posts, all of them.
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