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You added "low level," I just said he was a volunteer. I heard a report on the news that said he was an unpaid volunteer.
You can make a big deal out of this all you like, but this is a nothing burger. This guy tried to get Trump interested in these Russian contacts, but Trump wanted nothing to do with them.
The only reason this guy is in trouble is because the dates he claimed he met or contacted with people were wrong.
This is why people don't like talking to the FBI. If they ask when, or if, you ever spoke to, emailed, or called a person, and you tell them July. But then if you forgot you replied to an email, or took a call from them back in June, and the FBI digs up phone or email records from June - then according to the FBI you just "lied" to them. It does not mean that contacting the person was illegal, it means your testimony to the FBI was incorrect, which to them is you lying to them.
Trump said that he was a low level volunteer that no one even knew. Yet Trumps own statements and tweets prove that it's a lie.
The charges were part of a plea deal, the original charges were one count of false statements, and one count of deletion or destruction of records. Under the plea deal the gov will ask for 0-6 months and a far lower fine than the max for only one charge the other will be dropped.
So, the 5 months manafort worked for trump, is the only thing you're focused on and those 5 months are gonna bring down trump....
Hahahahahahaaaaaa
talk about a thin wire...
Another of your enlightening and thought-provoking posts.
This is not an investigation into bringing down Trump. How many times does it have to be repeated that Trump is not under investigation?
The investigation is about: Russian meddling in our elections and who all was involved.
If Trump is innocent as he proclaims daily, sometimes hourly, he has nothing to worry about. He can get on with governing and golfing and feuding with Gold Star widows, or whatever.
Another of your enlightening and thought-provoking posts.
This is not an investigation into bringing down Trump. How many times does it have to be repeated that Trump is not under investigation?
The investigation is about: Russian meddling in our elections and who all was involved.
If Trump is innocent as he proclaims daily, sometimes hourly, he has nothing to worry about. He can get on with governing and golfing and feuding with Gold Star widows, or whatever.
Have you read this thread? I mean really. That's all people want in this thread is to take trump down...
Perhaps you need to go back and read the indictment more carefully. Russia is actually mentioned quite a bit. Here's just a tiny excerpt you may have missed in your reading of the indictment:
In 2005, MANAFORT and another partner created Davis Manafort Partners, Inc. (DMP) to
engage principally in political consulting. DMP had staff in the United States, Ukraine, and
Russia.
In 2011, MANAFORT created DMP International, LLC (DMI) to engage in work for
foreign clients, in particular political consulting, lobbying, and public relations for the Government
of Ukraine, the Party of Regions, and members of the Party of Regions. DMI was a partnership
solely owned by MANAFORT and his spouse. GATES worked for both DMP and DMI and
served as MANAFORT's right-hand man.
The Party of Regions was a pro-Russia political party in Ukraine. Beginning in
approximately 2006, it retained MANAFORT, through DMP and then DMI, to advance its
interests in Ukraine, including the election of its slate of candidates.
In 2010, its candidate for President, Y anukovych, was elected President of Ukraine. In 2014, Yanukovych fled Ukraine for Russia in the wake of popular protests of widespread governmental corruption. Yanukovych, the Party of Regions, and the Government of Ukraine were MANAFORT, DMP, and DMI clients.
It is illegal to act as an agent of a foreign principal engaged in certain United States influence
activities without registering the affiliation. Specifically, a person who engages in lobbying or
public relations work in the United States (hereafter collectively referred to as lobbying) for a
foreign principal such as the Govennnent ofUkraine or the Party of Regions is required to provide
a detailed written registration statement to the United States Department of Justice. The filing,
made under oath, must disclose the name of the foreign principal, the financial payments to the
lobbyist, and the measures undertaken for the foreign principal, among other information. A
person required to make such a filing must further make in all lobbying material a "conspicuous
statement" that the materials are distributed on behalf ofthe foreign principal, among other things.
The filing thus permits public awareness and evaluation of the activities of a lobbyist who acts as
an agent of a foreign power or foreign political party in the United States.
In furtherance of the scheme, from 2006 until 2014, both dates being approximate and
inclusive, MANAFORT and GATES engaged in a multi-million dollar lobbying campaign in the
United States at the direction of Yanukovych, the Party of Regions, and the Government of
Ukraine. MANAFORT and GATES did so without registering and providing the disclosures
required by law.
It goes on for 84 more pages, but this gives the jist of it. Manafort and Gates lobbied for pro-Russia organizations and, against Federal Law, did not disclose their activities.
Papadopolous' plea bargain also mentions Russia quite a bit.
Now, I agree that this doesn't necessarily point a finger at Trump being directly involved with lobbying Russia. Since Manafort and Gates lied to the Federal government about their activities, they could have just neglected to mention it to Trump as well.
But, at the very least, Trump needs to get better at vetting his associates before hiring them. He seems to have terrible luck with that.
If I was President and this was revealed on MY watch about my former campaign director and campaign staffers (volunteer or paid), instead of trying to deflect this, I'd be out in public making speeches about the need for greater enforcement of the laws about lobbying for foreign governments and I'd be pushing Mueller and the FBI to root out anyone who was connected with my campaign and/or administration who also conducted illegal activities. I'd also be asking Congress to strengthen lobbying laws so that people involved with
That's what would truly make America great again. A president who is horrified by shifty, corrupt behavior and fights to eliminate it. And, oh yes, a president who carefully vets his associates to make sure that they are not corrupt or serving their own interests instead of the country's.
And, I'm not talking just about Trump here. Ever since Dick Nixon, we've had several presidents from both parties who failed to do this.
But Trump is the one in office now. He has a chance to make a REAL difference by taking a tough stance on corrupt lobbyists, campaign officials, and White House staffers. Instead, he seems more interested in deflecting attention from himself.
Manafort has more ties to the Obama administration and Podesta than trump, Manaforts attorney already stated No Collusion at all with trump campaign... Podesta indictment coming up next..
Another of your enlightening and thought-provoking posts.
This is not an investigation into bringing down Trump. How many times does it have to be repeated that Trump is not under investigation?
The investigation is about: Russian meddling in our elections and who all was involved.
If Trump is innocent as he proclaims daily, sometimes hourly, he has nothing to worry about. He can get on with governing and golfing and feuding with Gold Star widows, or whatever.
You are correct, Trump is not under investigation.
Yet.
If it is learned that his people did have contact with Russia regarding the election, then the President lied and was involved in a cover up then my friend he will be under investigation. And The Cult will scream "witch hunt" throughout the entire process, even if recordings are released confirming his role.
It's a little early to being a victory dance, we've been trying to tell you that for nearly a year.
Manafort has more ties to the Obama administration and Podesta than trump, Manaforts attorney already stated No Collusion at all with trump campaign... Podesta indictment coming up next..
so he was something higher than campaign chairman for Obama?
Manafort has more ties to the Obama administration and Podesta than trump, Manaforts attorney already stated No Collusion at all with trump campaign... Podesta indictment coming up next..
Perhaps you need to go back and read the indictment more carefully. Russia is actually mentioned quite a bit. Here's just a tiny excerpt you may have missed in your reading of the indictment:
It goes on for 84 more pages, but this gives the jist of it. Manafort and Gates lobbied for pro-Russia organizations and, against Federal Law, did not disclose their activities.
The actual indictment is only 31 pages so I don't know what you read that was 84 pages.
And yes, Russia is mentioned 3 times...
DMF had staff in Russia (1 time)
Yanukovych fled to Russia (2 times)
That's it. That's the mentions to Russia.
And here's a link to the actual indictment..all 31 PAGES.
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