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Old 10-31-2017, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Read the indictment. He's been charged with at least $18 million in money laundering. Tax evasion is a separate charge.
What it all comes down to, is that he seems to have been hiding money so as not to pay taxes on it. That's one reason why they launder it.

 
Old 10-31-2017, 09:19 AM
 
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So was Manafort. Seeing as Trump doesn't pay his staff, most of them were probably volunteers.

You can pretend it's a nothing-burger all you like, but it's a very big deal. Papadopolous has been speaking with Trump and his team for months wearing a wire. Trump is in bigly trouble which is why he's freaking out!

Trump is going down!
Nothing Papa-whatever did was illegal. So how can Trump go down for that?

You guys only wish Trump had done what Hilary and the DNC did, when they hired people to pay Brits and Russians inside the Kremlin to provide them dirt on Trump.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 09:23 AM
 
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Nothing Papa-whatever did was illegal. So how can Trump go down for that?
Conspiring with a foreign enemy to manipulate an election and hack your political opponent is most certainly illegal. And we have no idea what other illegal things they did. Even Papadoplous admitted in his affidavit this is a very small part of what he knows, and his entire testimony is a very small part of the investigation. Mueller knows astronomically more than you can imagine. He knows who is guilty, he knows what they've been saying to the Russians, and all of them will go down.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 09:25 AM
 
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Read the indictment. He's been charged with at least $18 million in money laundering. Tax evasion is a separate charge.
I did and that's why I asked what crime is he being charged with regarding money laundering because that is turning illegally obtained money into "good" money.

Robbing a bank and then buying a house for cash is an example of money laundering...turning illegally obtained money into "good" money.

But buying shirts and moving money between banks isn't laundering..that's tax evasion.

Two separate things.

The only "crime" I gathered from that indictment was that he didn't register as a foreign agent.
The rest is tax stuff.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 09:26 AM
 
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Papadopolous has been speaking with Trump and his team for months wearing a wire.
what's the evidence to support this claim?
 
Old 10-31-2017, 09:26 AM
 
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Conspiring with a foreign enemy to manipulate an election and hack your political opponent is most certainly illegal. And we have no idea what other illegal things they did. Even Papadoplous admitted in his affidavit this is a very small part of what he knows, and his entire testimony is a very small part of the investigation. Mueller knows astronomically more than you can imagine. He knows who is guilty, he knows what they've been saying to the Russians, and all of them will go down.
That is not what Manafort is charged with. There's nothing in that indictment about the 2016 campaign.
In fact there's not one mention of Russia at all in that indictment. It's about his financial dealings in the Ukraine and they've been investigating him for that for a couple of years now.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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what's the evidence to support this claim?
He was arrested in July, but didn't plead guilty until a few weeks ago and his case was sealed. He's described in the guilty plea as a "proactive cooperator" which is usually used in legal cases to refer to someone who has been wearing a wire or recording phone calls to aid prosecutors.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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Manafort's indictment:

Count One: Conspiracy against the United States between 2005 and 2017.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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That is not what Manafort is charged with.
I wasn't referring to Manafort, I was referring to Papadopolous. Do try to pay attention.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Mount Airy, Maryland
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I think that it's so cute that these Trump posters believe that this many people who were close to Trump during the election have been found to have had contact with Russia and then lying about it later is nothing. I assure you it is not nothing.
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