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Well I think we settled it you are ok with people working full time being denied housing because they don't make enough your ideology is morally bankrupt.
It actually was a very good question indeed. Because the value that you would find reasonable from that person demonstrates exactly how employers do it. Would you pay $100 an hour for one cleaner if there was another who would do the same exact job for $10? Unless you are a sucker or masochist, you will choose the $10 an hour guy. Unless you are very rich and very charitable of course, but then you would be an evil rich guy.
It actually was a very good question indeed. Because the value that you would find reasonable from that person demonstrates exactly how employers do it. Would you pay $100 an hour for one cleaner if there was another who would do the same exact job for $10? Unless you are a sucker or masochist, you will choose the $10 an hour guy. Unless you are very rich and very charitable of course, but then you would be an evil rich guy.
Thanks. I don’t think we can have any reasonable conversation with those who are solely after other people money.
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That's good. I'm going with Cambridge and the Business Dictionary.
There are people who are salaried who don't earn middle class wages, as well as people paid hourly who do make middle class wages, like myself, so I think the amount of housing you can get for your money is the best measure.
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It actually was a very good question indeed. Because the value that you would find reasonable from that person demonstrates exactly how employers do it. Would you pay $100 an hour for one cleaner if there was another who would do the same exact job for $10? Unless you are a sucker or masochist, you will choose the $10 an hour guy. Unless you are very rich and very charitable of course, but then you would be an evil rich guy.
There is such a thing as paying more for better quality as well. For example, you can get a steak for $15 at Applebee's or for $45 at Ruth's Chris or Morton's; and I would get the Morton's steak over the Applebee's one.
And with tools, you can buy a cheap Harbor Freight ratchet that will break after 100 uses, or an expensive Snap On one that is guaranteed to last for life through heavy use. A mechanic will buy the Snap On tool instead of the cheap Harbor Freight tool
It's silly to ask me for a definition of what's well defined.
I don't define the term and neither do you.
It is what it is.
It is not what it is. That is the problem. People define words, there is no innate definition.
And often, when people put two or more words together to create a phrase, it can be defined to mean something very different than the individual words were intended to mean. If a phrase is coined, and gains popularity, it becomes part of the language.
But there is another word that has been defined a long time ago. The word “misnomer”.
I never use the phrase “working class” because it is a misnomer. There is no data proving that they are working any more than the middle class, the upper middle class, or the upper class. If I am to accept that the lower middle class is the “working class”, then I would have to accept that the other classes somehow do not work, or work less.
“Working poor” is a more accurate term, or “lower middle class”, but working class sounds better, so some people use it. I don’t. That’s the only point I was making.
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It actually was a very good question indeed. Because the value that you would find reasonable from that person demonstrates exactly how employers do it. Would you pay $100 an hour for one cleaner if there was another who would do the same exact job for $10? Unless you are a sucker or masochist, you will choose the $10 an hour guy. Unless you are very rich and very charitable of course, but then you would be an evil rich guy.
