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Old 11-24-2017, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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DH was involved in a low income rental project years ago. The company bought the utilities and did the billing at current rates. That 15% spread paid for on site after school care, computers and job training. They got the education department at the local college to provide volunteer tutors every day. There are ways to solve problems but one needs to be willing and creative.
That's awesome, wouldn't it be great if something like that served as a model nationwide?
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Old 11-24-2017, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb Why SHOULDN'T wealthy people have better school districts?

Allow me to turn this around:

Why shouldn't working class folks have better school districts?

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Old 11-24-2017, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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A rising tide lifts all boats. I should be amazed that some CD posters think just because they have money and pay more taxes entitles them to better stuff. Schools should be like toll roads.

The thing this thread conveys to me is that there are as many ways to pay for public education as there are states. And that the soft bigotry of low expectation also comes from teachers.

If I were running a school district, I'd get really good pre school teachers and start school at age 3. I would also institute the program started in Missouri 25 years ago, Parents as Teachers. If the problem is lack of parental involvement, fix that. It might take 2 generations, but in the long haul we will all be better for it.

IMO, there have always been some unfit parents. The education establishment has been successful in blaming their failure to educate their kids on bad parenting. It is not impossible to teach children whose parents are not involved. The first thing to teach is how to behave at school.
Exactly an educated society is a health society, we don't need a caste type education system to favor the wealthy. I don't believe that a problem even exists since wealthy districts in my area seem to do quite well in spite of the amount of funding that goes to poorer districts.
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Old 11-24-2017, 09:37 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Allow me to turn this around:

Why shouldn't working class folks have better school districts?

What is “working class”?

I know a many wealthy people, and in my experience, the vast majority of them work. So are they “working class”?

Or is “working class” a nice way of saying “poor people”?
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Old 11-24-2017, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Texas
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What is “working class”?

I know a many wealthy people, and in my experience, the vast majority of them work. So are they “working class”?

Or is “working class” a nice way of saying “poor people”?
It's silly to ask me for a definition of what's well defined.

I don't define the term and neither do you.

It is what it is.
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Old 11-24-2017, 09:47 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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Because the barbaric authoritarian collectivists believe that other people's money is theirs to take and use however they please.

Spooner on the difference between a government and a highwayman (1870) - Online Library of Liberty
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Old 11-24-2017, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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What is “working class”?

I know a many wealthy people, and in my experience, the vast majority of them work. So are they “working class”?

Or is “working class” a nice way of saying “poor people”?
I have my own definition of working class. Someone working class earns minimum 2.5 times the rent of a median one bedroom apartment in their metro each month to maximum 5 times that rent
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Old 11-24-2017, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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I have my own definition of working class. Someone working class earns minimum 2.5 times the rent of a median one bedroom apartment in their metro each month to maximum 5 times that rent
Working class is someone who does not own private property or the means of production.
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Old 11-24-2017, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Working class is someone who does not own private property or the means of production.
Point being was if you don't earn 5 times the rent of a median one bedroom apartment in your area, "the smart money" (betting term) says you won't earn enough to rent AND save for a down payment on a house/condo, so my definition is pretty accurate
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Old 11-24-2017, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Point being was if you don't earn 5 times the rent of a median one bedroom apartment in your area, "the smart money" (betting term) says you won't earn enough to rent AND save for a down payment on a house/condo, so my definition is pretty accurate
Indeed frankly its disgusting that anyone who works full time can not afford a modest apartment its a complete joke.
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