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Old 02-15-2018, 06:25 PM
 
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Any age limitation to purchasing a firearm should apply to the age of enlistment in the arm forces. If you can't legally buy a firearm, then that person shouldn't be allowed to enlist in the arm forces.

 
Old 02-15-2018, 06:35 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Originally Posted by Roboteer View Post
The so-called "gun control" advocates have spent the last several decades proving (inadvertently) that their half measures do not work. "Assault weapons" bans, waiting periods, "gun free" zones, background checks, and all the rest rarely reduce the crime rate, and often result in an increase instead. And yet they keep coming back and saying we need "just a little more" of their "reasonable restrictions".

When they point to countries whose results they like, they invariably point to places like England, Japan, Australia, etc. - countries that have almost completely banned guns from their subjects.

Take the hint.

In fact, complete bans of all guns are the only things that have ever reduced "gun crimes". And they must be accompanied by ruthless confiscation. Advocates who say they want "just some reasonable regulations", know by now they won't work. The only thing they could now be intending, is an eventual complete ban on all guns. While pretending they will do only just a little, to fool you into going along with "just a little". And then next year, just a little more.

Their total gun bans must be accompanied by SWAT teams going door to door to every house and apartment in America, taking people's guns whether they want to give them up or not. They know that many people will object to giving up their guns voluntarily... but a gun ban won't work unless everybody turns in their guns.

Advocates who say they want a few "reasonable regulations", are either astonishingly ignorant of the results of their own policies, or are lying to you.
False.

Take a look at the rate of firearm-related deaths by state AND their gun control policies. See a correlation?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firear...tates_by_state
 
Old 02-15-2018, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Ever notice that a majority of the gun rights supporters use the slippery slope of where does it end to fight even the idea of a potential bans? And they wonder why the left calls them gun nuts...
OK.

So....where does it end?

At what point will gun control advocates be happy? .

Say we do everything they want when they talk about "common sense" gun control measures.


And after that there are still mass shootings.....


What then?
 
Old 02-15-2018, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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False.

Take a look at the rate of firearm-related deaths by state AND their gun control policies. See a correlation?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firear...tates_by_state
From your source:

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In 2014, the overall rate of death by firearms in the United States was 10.3 per 100,000 people — the same as for death by motor vehicles — with suicides accounting for roughly two out of every three gun deaths.
So remove 2/3 of the numbers, and see where we are.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 06:48 PM
 
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OK.

So....where does it end?

At what point will gun control advocates be happy? .

Say we do everything they want when they talk about "common sense" gun control measures.


And after that there are still mass shootings.....


What then?
They will want all guns gone. Some already do want that.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 06:53 PM
 
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What i find interesting is how the rest of the world cant be bothered caring anymore. I know its insensitive but nothing is ever going to change and most just freeze it out.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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From your source:



So remove 2/3 of the numbers, and see where we are.
Still doesn't change the fact that states with lax gun laws have a higher rate of firearm deaths than those who do not...
 
Old 02-15-2018, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Still doesn't change the fact that states with lax gun laws have a higher rate of firearm deaths than those who do not...
It depends where the suicides occurred. We are talking two thirds of the stats. That is huge. Also, there are many other factors present. Even if there is a correlation, and I doubt there is, that doesn't mean causation.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 07:20 PM
 
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We'll follow your lead. Until then, the 2nd Amendment is a travesty of the Constitution. The fact that only 3 countries have that right on their books should show how meritless it is as a natural right. America, for getting a first crack at a true democracy got a lot of things wrong out of the gate that we've been impossibly slow to fix.
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Right to bear arms is a man-made right, and as such is subject to re-evaluation. And to continue to hang onto a Constitution written centuries ago in a different world without letting current events dictate the need to amending/updating is either naive or stubborn.

I get freedom and rights, but it is not an absolute.
2A is not a "travesty". And it's got really nothing to do with the right of anyone to have a gun. 2A is really just citing the State's interest in not banning people from possessing and bearing arms. It doesn't ESTABLISH the RKBA...that is a natural right that exists independent of the Constitution. You could abolish 2A tomorrow and that wouldn't change in any way.


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Aurora: AR-15
Orlando: AR-15
Las Vegas: AR-15
Sandy Hook: AR-15
Texas Church: AR-15
San Bernardino: AR-15
Parkland: AR-15
Hmm.

Orlando: Muslim jihadist that had no business being in this country in the first place
Las Vegas: Not enough information to identify the shooter(s).
Sandy Hook: Not enough information to identify the shooter(s). Alleged shooter mentally ill and on psychotropic meds.
Texas Church: Domestic violence/mental illness
San Berdoo: Muslim jihadists that had no business being in the country in the first place
Parkland: Mental illness

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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
It reminds me of MADD when we took action against drunk drivers.
And yet DUI is still one of the most prevalent offenses in all communities.
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A gun that held one bullet would have been fun when I was in Vietnam for a year.
Yah, the liberals don't care about your life and safety, no matter where you are. That's pretty clear.
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Originally Posted by cuebald View Post
That was a military weapon. If you aren't in Viet Nam or another hot zone any more, I would suggest you probably don't still need it.
Why? What situations that require deadly force can be or actually ARE resolved with only one bullet?
 
Old 02-15-2018, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Still doesn't change the fact that states with lax gun laws have a higher rate of firearm deaths than those who do not...

in most cased there is no direct link between firearm deaths and the states that either have strict or lax gun laws. Read this link:


https://www.safehome.org/resources/gun-laws-and-deaths/


Some states have both high firearm restrictions and high firearms deaths and other states have low firearm deaths and low firearm restriction. Or a combination of both.
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