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Nope. The cost for the almost two year Benghazi investigation was around $7 million. This current investigation, since end of May, has already cost around $7 million. This current investigation is costing around one million dollars a month.
You have your numbers mixed. Mueller's investigation has spent $3.2M. The DOJ is spending more on the Russia-related investigation, but Mueller's team is at 3.2.
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Excuse me but wasn't there just a news person suspended for trying to claim Flynn's conviction had something to do with the election? Why yes,yes there was.
What Flynn pled guilty to was lying about something that happened AFTER the election.
The topic Flynn lied about--for which he pled guilty--was sanctions for Russian election interference. If you don't think that sanctions on Russia for election interference are within the scope of the election, then you are reading the news with blinders on.
The suspension to which you are referring is on a different subject. There are reports that Flynn will testify that Trump as President-Elect directed Flynn to contact Russia about sanctions. The error in reporting was to state that Flynn will testify that Trump as candidate directed directed Flynn to contact Russia about sanctions. That is all different from the facts of Flynn's guilty plea.
Lot of people keep saying this but there ins't anything in the constitution that says the president has to talk a certain way or follow the standards of previous presidents. Trump just has different personality his popularity is not affected by it lot of people connect with him. The folks like yourself who spend lot of time talking about politics online is not the majority of American's you might think you are but your not. Many people see Trump as a regular guy or doing things for the working man it doesn't matter if Trump really is or not he connects with them.
What does Trump know about a working man so that he can do anything for him? I doubt seriously he's ever met one. He's the poster child for inherited wealth and white privilege. It's a shame they couldn't buy him a decent education.
Not sure why they believe a subpoena of financial records is beyond the pale. Part of any coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia could potentially involve the transfer of funds. It could also shed light on any leverage the Russians may have over Trump, which would explain the GOP's position change on Ukraine, Flynn's secret discussions regarding sanctions, etc.
If in the course of investigating any financial ties to Russia, Mueller happens to stumble upon money laundering or other financial crimes that don't involve Russia, why would he not pursue those? If the police have a warrant to search your home for contraband, and they discover a dead body on the floor, are they supposed to say "Well boys, that's not what we came here for. A dead body is WAY beyond the scope of the warrant"?
It's no different from Whitewater, which lasted much longer than this investigation has currently been going on. The independent counsel, who was a Republican, was investigating a real estate deal that somehow swerved into Bill Clinton's relationship with a 22 year old intern. If Ken Starr could steer his investigation into Clinton's relationship with an intern without Republican objection, why can't Mueller, a Republican who was appointed by the Trump administration, turn his attention to Trump's financial dealings, which are very much within the scope of his mandate?
Ahhh, more "whataboutism" to justify these actions. Wonderful...
You have your numbers mixed. Mueller's investigation has spent $3.2M. The DOJ is spending more on the Russia-related investigation, but Mueller's team is at 3.2.
The topic Flynn lied about--for which he pled guilty--was sanctions for Russian election interference. If you don't think that sanctions on Russia for election interference are within the scope of the election, then you are reading the news with blinders on.
The suspension to which you are referring is on a different subject. There are reports that Flynn will testify that Trump as President-Elect directed Flynn to contact Russia about sanctions. The error in reporting was to state that Flynn will testify that Trump as candidate directed directed Flynn to contact Russia about sanctions. That is all different from the facts of Flynn's guilty plea.
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You have your numbers mixed. Mueller's investigation has spent $3.2M. The DOJ is spending more on the Russia-related investigation, but Mueller's team is at 3.2.
"Special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russia’s election meddling and possible collusion with the Donald Trump campaign has cost more than $3.2 million, his office disclosed in a statement of expenditures on Tuesday. With additional Department of Justice costs related to the probe, the total amount is close to $7 million." Mueller
I said "the current investigation". Unlike you, I wasn't splitting up the costs by Mueller and the costs by the DOJ.
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The topic Flynn lied about--for which he pled guilty--was sanctions for Russian election interference. If you don't think that sanctions on Russia for election interference are within the scope of the election, then you are reading the news with blinders on.
The suspension to which you are referring is on a different subject. There are reports that Flynn will testify that Trump as President-Elect directed Flynn to contact Russia about sanctions. The error in reporting was to state that Flynn will testify that Trump as candidate directed directed Flynn to contact Russia about sanctions. That is all different from the facts of Flynn's guilty plea.
Flynn lied about something that he did legally. I don't know why he lied over something that he legally did.
I was simply correcting someone who claimed Benghazi cost 2x what this investigation was costing, which it did not.
So, what Mueller has to show for that $7 million, so far...
An indictment for lying when the FBI already knew he'd lied.
An indictment for lying and for trying, and failing, to get the Trump admin to open a back channel to Russia.
An indictment for money laundering, when he'd previously been investigated for that very thing under the Obama administration, yet had never been charged for it while under that admin.
A stack of notes/emails by Comey that, per Gowdy, will not help a prosecutor who may try to bring obstruction charges, instead, those notes/emails will help the defendant who may be charged with obstruction.
Wow, just, wow
'Some' of the fall offs from the investigation...
Obama knew the Russians were up to something but hid that knowledge.
An investigator on Muellers team was removed, but not fired or investigated (why not?), for extreme suspicious behavior, part of which was in helping Comey change his draft from “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless”.
Hillary/DNC hired and paid a foreigner to create a false dossier to damage opponent.
The infamous tarmac meeting, which the FBI claimed they had no records of.
U1 rearing it's head again with a deep throat witness.
etc., etc......................
You should try inhabiting reality. The Mueller investigation has, thus far, generated 2 guilty pleas and two additional indictments. In a complex investigation, that is a speedy result. Meanwhile, the defense teams for the as-yet unindicted co-conspirators is leaking like a jury rigged boat.
Papadopoulos lied to the FBI about his contacts with a connected Russian professor who met with Papadopoulos to facilitate the delivery of "thousands of emails" with "dirt on Hilary Clinton" while he was advising the campaign. He also repeatedly tried to arrange meetings between elements of the Russian government & the Trump team and his plea implicates two other campaign officials.
What does Trump know about a working man so that he can do anything for him? I doubt seriously he's ever met one. He's the poster child for inherited wealth and white privilege. It's a shame they couldn't buy him a decent education.
And for that and a couple of other things you and the liberal "crew" obviously despise him. Jealousy from some maybe?
Look, it'd be easier if everyone admitted both sides SUCK at this point and POTUS hasn't run anything in a long time. Congress is bought and paid for by special interest $$$$ and none of them give two hoots about the public.
Getting rid of Trump is not going to cure what ails y'all or the nation. What it most CERTAINLY will do is embolden the anarchists and others who want to totally fracture this country and make it into a totally socialist country where the citizens are wholly dependent on the state instead of themselves.
Voting already has been shown to mean little, if the executive branch is ripped from office for something other than real,proven collusion with Russia to FIX the election it will be clear that the time has come where voting means NOTHING.
It's already wobbling on the line given how activist judges can and have nullified laws put into effect by a free, fair and full election process not to mention unelected activist judges legislating from the bench more and more.
Be careful what you wish for, you may just get it...
"Special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russia’s election meddling and possible collusion with the Donald Trump campaign has cost more than $3.2 million, his office disclosed in a statement of expenditures on Tuesday. With additional Department of Justice costs related to the probe, the total amount is close to $7 million." Mueller
I said "the current investigation". Unlike you, I wasn't splitting up the costs by Mueller and the costs by the DOJ.
Flynn lied about something that he did legally. I don't know why he lied over something that he legally did.
The broader DOJ is not directed by Mueller. It has its own investigative efforts, it responds to requests from Mueller's team, and it responds to requests from the Congressional committees pursuing inquiries.
Flynn & Papadopoulos both lied about contacts with Russian go-betweens. How many Trump officials do you need lying about their contacts with Russian go-betweens before it clicks in your brain that they were not actually doing something legally. Trump Jr & Kushner have also lied about meeting Russian go-betweens, just not to the FBI (we presume). Sessions lied about meeting a Russian go-between, just not to the FBI (he only lied to Congress & the American people). That's already an awful lot of people in Trump's orbit lying about Russian contacts to pass off as coincidental.
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