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Old 12-01-2017, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Free rides to the airport for all liberals promising to leave the country over the new tax plan.
Heck, with the extra money the Rs are putting in my pocket, I'll help pay for a few.
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:40 PM
 
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Liberals DO have a reason to be lying and fear mongering about this bill. They have done a fine job of trying to terrify people about it, and have refused to present facts.

All of which makes sense. When working tax payers see that Dems have done nothing for them, and Republicans allow them to keep more of their earnings, as well as grow the economy and boost jobs, the liberal narrative is finished once and for all. The Dem party should be finished for at least the next 20 years.

The fact that people that can not afford health insurance are no longer fined for not being able to afford it...is a final nail in that coffin.


It's the final nail in the coffin for republicans because 13 million will lose their healthcare if the mandate is repealed. Who do you think pays for you if you don't have insurance. The ones who have insurance pays for you and are premiums go up because you don't have insurance. We all have to pay into the system to make it fair.
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:40 PM
 
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I'm beginning to get flashbacks from the outrage on my side concerning this tax bill. The world isn't going to end and the economy isn't going to implode. I'm not in favor of this tax cut, but calm down.
Or better yet, don't act like they did when Trump won/Trump was inaugurated. Yikes!

On the other hand, the meltdowns are always entertaining.
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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It's the final nail in the coffin for republicans because 13 million will lose their healthcare if the mandate is repealed. Who do you think pays for you if you don't have insurance. The ones who have insurance pays for you and are premiums go up because you don't have insurance. We all have to pay into the system to make it fair.
Thing is-millions NOW can not afford insurance-at least in part due to the premium increases that are the result of Obamacare. All we are doing is penalizing them with a fine they can not afford. If Obamacare was such a great plan, you wouldn't need to punish people to get them to participate. At least now those that can not afford insurance are NOT punished for it.
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:48 PM
 
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Thing is-millions NOW can not afford insurance-at least in part due to the premium increases that are the result of Obamacare. All we are doing is penalizing them with a fine they can not afford. If Obamacare was such a great plan, you wouldn't need to punish people to get them to participate. At least now those that can not afford insurance are NOT punished for it.

Agree. Plus why should we be forced to have Obamacare? We SHOULD have a choice whether or not we want it. And not be penalized for not having it in the past. Thankfully no more penalties.

Damned if we do, damned if we don't.
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:53 PM
 
Location: 89434
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Didn't see any conservatives/Republicans busting windows, smashing cars, and lighting stuff on fire when Obama was in office.
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:55 PM
 
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Thing is-millions NOW can not afford insurance-at least in part due to the premium increases that are the result of Obamacare. All we are doing is penalizing them with a fine they can not afford. If Obamacare was such a great plan, you wouldn't need to punish people to get them to participate. At least now those that can not afford insurance are NOT punished for it.
Do you not understand that the rest of us pay for you. Our costs go up because of those who don't have insurance.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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My point is, this tax bill favors the wealthy....not the middle class. A middle class person can't write this off yet corporations can.
btw, as far as the "teacher supply deductible"..... while the house plan eliminates it.....the senate plan doubles it to $500

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Old 12-01-2017, 10:16 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I think it will pass. This will probably be Trump's first policy victory. About time considering R's have Congressional majority. Maybe it won't be so bad, open to it...I think the Corp side makes sense, not sure that the individual side will pan out as well. And it may blow a hole in the deficit, but oh well.
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:20 PM
 
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[quote=Toyman at Jewel Lake;50282761]Thing is-millions NOW can not afford insurance-at least in part due to the premium increases that are the result of Obamacare. All we are doing is penalizing them with a fine they can not afford. If Obamacare was such a great plan, you wouldn't need to punish people to get them to participate. At least now those that can not afford insurance are NOT punished for it.[/QUOTE]

Yes, but those who have insurance are pretty much punished for paying for you because you don't have insurance. How is that fair.
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