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Old 12-10-2017, 05:58 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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His announcement is having the expected effect judging by all the anti US rioting in ME cities, like the ones close to US Embassy in Lebanon. ISIS is smiling and rubbing their hands together knowing new recruits will start pouring in.
There has been decades rioting related to the US, Burning US flags and embassy closures. In other words nothing has changed.

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Old 12-10-2017, 06:01 AM
 
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Apparently you are not following the news too closely if you think there has been no real change. According to you perhaps, but others feel quite strongly that something significant has changed, obviously. Maybe not for Americans sitting comfortably in their living rooms watching what little they do from that part of the world, but for those protesting and fighting and even dying, there's more going on than they can again accept without strong protest. Weak though the protests may be compared to the overwhelming forces against them...
You seem to be unaware that although the American media doesn't report it, Palestinian Arab rage in the form of stabbings, rocket fire (from the Gaza Strip into Southern Israel), car rammings, etc. are common occurences in Israel and the West Bank.

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Anyone who follows the Palestinians is aware that "days of rage" happen almost weekly. These particular "days of rage" involve marches/protests & burning tires in their own neighborhoods (sounds familiar doesn't it) and throwing rocks at Israelis.
Exactly Arab protests to the Israelis is ongoing all the time and President Trump's declaration is just another excuse for these actions which happen all the time.
 
Old 12-10-2017, 06:06 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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It is already having repercussions for our statecraft ...

The Arab League resolution was agreed at 03:00 (01:00 GMT) after hours of talks in Cairo. It was backed by a number of US allies, including the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia and Jordan, who had already voiced their concern.

The resolution said:
- The US had "withdrawn itself as a sponsor and broker" of any possible Israeli-Palestinian peace process through its decision
- Mr Trump's move "deepens tension, ignites anger and threatens to plunge region into more violence and chaos"
- A request would be made for the UN Security Council to condemn the move

At an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council on Friday, the US found itself isolated, with the other 14 members all condemning Mr Trump's declaration.


The above is from the BBC.
Trump's Jerusalem move: Arab allies attack decision
You know, I couldn't care less what the bigoted, anti-Semitist Arabs think. They have hated the Jews since the beginning of time. Jerusalem is and always has been the Capital of Israel. Period. And the U.N. is just as anti-Semitic. We should kick the U.N. out of the United States, and withdraw from that shameless, globalist body. They do nothing but foment this hatred.
 
Old 12-10-2017, 06:25 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Although Trump's action appears to have been dictated more by a desire to please his supporters and donors than any nuanced understanding of world affairs, in this particular case it was also the right thing to do. Yet a lot of people think that, whether it's right or wrong, we should refrain from doing something if people who already hate us will hate us just a little bit more. That's an odd -- and cowardly -- way to conduct foreign affairs and treat your friends.
 
Old 12-10-2017, 06:25 AM
 
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Again for the record...

Indians were considered "savages" when we the United States decided to take what was there's. Like who has the power and might over another, what has that got to do with the right or wrong of these actions by either party?
The stale argument that Arabs in this region are anything similar to Native Americans in the U.S. is a desperate and false comparison made by some brain washed liberals. In fact, anyone looking at the situation objectively would see the Jews and Israelis as the underdogs. They are vastly outnumbered and surrounded by hostile people that would like nothing more than to wipe them off the face of the earth.
The Muslims have millions of square miles as their territory. They occupy all of northern Africa and the middle east all the way to Pakistan. In most of this area they won't tolerate Jews or Christians. Israelis have in comparison a tiny spec of land which is historically there homeland. Who's really the underdog here?
 
Old 12-10-2017, 06:40 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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You seem to be unaware that although the American media doesn't report it, Palestinian Arab rage in the form of stabbings, rocket fire (from the Gaza Strip into Southern Israel), car rammings, etc. are common occurences in Israel and the West Bank.
...
Exactly Arab protests to the Israelis is ongoing all the time and President Trump's declaration is just another excuse for these actions which happen all the time.
And the stabbings continue. I'm amazed the stabber is actually a adult this time around.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/N...ws.aspx/239119

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jkLEVSOOnAw
 
Old 12-10-2017, 06:47 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Czech President Milos Zeman on Saturday charged European Union (EU) countries with being “cowards” in their response to President Donald Trump’s historic recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

Czech president Milos Zeman slams 'cowards' European Union for stance on Jerusalem
 
Old 12-10-2017, 06:49 AM
 
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And the stabbings continue. I'm amazed the stabber is actually a adult this time around.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/N...ws.aspx/239119


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jkLEVSOOnAw
Well now, the U.S. media will be reporting these and blaming Trump although they were happening on a regular basis before. It's about putting out as much anti-Trump propaganda as possible regardless of what the truth is.
 
Old 12-10-2017, 07:01 AM
 
Location: NYC
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The stale argument that Arabs in this region are anything similar to Native Americans in the U.S. is a desperate and false comparison made by some brain washed liberals. In fact, anyone looking at the situation objectively would see the Jews and Israelis as the underdogs. They are vastly outnumbered and surrounded by hostile people that would like nothing more than to wipe them off the face of the earth.
The Muslims have millions of square miles as their territory. They occupy all of northern Africa and the middle east all the way to Pakistan. In most of this area they won't tolerate Jews or Christians. Israelis have in comparison a tiny spec of land which is historically there homeland. Who's really the underdog here?
Of course, when it comes to the Middle East logic and common sense go out the window. Anyone who believes that in a conflict between people who hold 99.9% of the ME landmass and people who hold 0.1% the crux of the problem is that the latter hold too much land is either stupid, biased, or ignorant. Or all of the above.
 
Old 12-10-2017, 07:36 AM
 
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Well now, the U.S. media will be reporting these and blaming Trump although they were happening on a regular basis before. It's about putting out as much anti-Trump propaganda as possible regardless of what the truth is.
Up to now the US MSM hasn't been reporting the past stabbing. The international MSM are reporting this stabbing, but are currently leaving out that he was captured alive and is a Arab. The international MSM instead went directly to attaching Trump to it.

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The incident appeared to be the first attack since President Donald Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital....
Israeli security guard stabbed and 'seriously wounded' at Jerusalem bus station | The Independent

US MSM twisted it another way:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...Name=worldNews
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